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this hope radio for the masses headliner

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between July 8 1947 you hear on the air

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for three person arms that are flying

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there - found and they're now in the

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possession of the on a rig change the

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game game changer I occasionally think

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how quickly our differences worldwide

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would vanish if we were facing an alien

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this is painted black with your host

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Jimmy Church on the game changer radio

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I need your help did you do

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1985

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you're listening to fade to black with

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Jimmy Church on the game change in that

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hey now

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hey now how you doing yeah I feel like

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that that baby right there in the gift

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right there from Pat that's me that's me

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right now that's me that's pretty cool

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fade to black this spoke radio for da

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messes yeah

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today's Tuesday May 22nd 2018 just 141

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days into the new year

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224 days left and I would like to

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welcome everybody listening all around

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the world all across the United States

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hither and thither to and fro back and

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forth up and down east and west north

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and south far and near

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this is fade to black for kjc are the

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game changer network in kg ra the

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planets I'm yours to be searched what's

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cracking everybody how you doin Linda

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Moulton Howe here tonight

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I can't camp lit it's been a while it's

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been a while she's been on with this you

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know a little short bursts here and

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there but it's been a while since Linda

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and I have sat down and had the head the

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talk so we're gonna do that tonight

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we're gonna go A to Z artificial

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intelligence to UFOs and we'll cover the

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Z with Zimbabwe tomorrow night George

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Noory is here

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Victoria Guevara --an is here also with

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some very special surprise guests so

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buckle up okay tomorrow night's gonna be

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a great show

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had Linda here for tomorrow night but

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then I couldn't have had Linda here for

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tonight so there you go so you figure it

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out we were gonna have Linda tomorrow

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night but we're not who is filling those

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shoes yeah so you're gonna want to want

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to be here tomorrow night it's gonna be

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a great show and then on Thursday Jon

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Rappoport is going to be here no more

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fake newsroom live that's right open

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lines and we are getting close we're

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getting close to contact in the desert

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we are one week away so what we're gonna

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do next week by the way and I know I'm

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announcing this on Tuesday but you need

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to understand next week's going to be a

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short week for us so Wednesday night

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will be our last show of the week and

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then we head out to contact in the

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desert but you know taking Thursday

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night off

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and but we are broadcasting Friday night

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so you've got to get ready for that

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adjust your schedules okay and next

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Friday night we'll be broadcasting live

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okay now spent my day today over at on

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stellar you can now find me there

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I have bounced over to Facebook for a

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just a second but on stellar com ons te

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be hanging out that is the social media

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of the future but it is happening now on

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stellar common you can use the promo

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code Jimmy get yourself some bonus

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tokens and what those mean with the

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blockchain and the token economy over

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time stellar will be using those soon so

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just get over start hanging out start

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are doing that anymore but you can

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certainly go and follow our radio page

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when you get there if you do it off of

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to it but if you go to youtube is the

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one that says Jimmy Church official

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right so then you'll know it's the

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official page it's all simple to do

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okay now the sandbox is hashtag F to be

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on Twitter hashtag F to be on Twitter

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soon okay now soon did you happen to see

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the apology commercials from Facebook on

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TV now I don't watch TV Scott but I

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would love to if you guys got a clip of

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be more than happy to click on a link a

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bit you they're funny I bet you they're

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funny all right where are my hashtag F

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to be I see so when I say hashtag F to

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be for the sandbox

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I immediately glance over at the sandbox

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to see what's new there we use TweetDeck

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and it advances automatically you don't

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have to click any time anybody post

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something it it rolls through and it's

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just an amazing piece of software from

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Twitter called TweetDeck and that's what

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we use and you want to go over and hang

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out because it's there in real time also

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we have the chat

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rooms hello everyone you see you ever

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noticed when somebody types and they're

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on the phone they'll speak it out as

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you gotta love it you gotta love it okay

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you can email throughout the show Jimmy

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and Jimmy Church radio calm all right

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last night I spoke about Gina's a

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Morelli and I told a little uh you know

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a little story and and and what she

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meant to me personally growing up and

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her and her father Mario and her sister

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Andrea the three of them you know let me

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in to the Sam Pirelli world and brought

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me into their family very very

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graciously back when I was a kid well

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old and there you go she's she's in a

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better place and in you know a night and

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I thought about things today and I

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thought okay you know here what do you

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do with that you know what do you do

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with that somebody that you've known for

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35 years and very close with and stuff

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what do you do because her sister Andrea

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and and the Klan and the Zeffirelli's

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Pasadena California they're all gone now

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you know what do you do with that you

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know and you know you can't do much but

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you've just got the memories and I was

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able to do that last night she passed

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away last night during the show and I'm

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just glad that I had the chance to do

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that and I want to thank all of you for

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just letting me take advantage of my

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little soapbox here in the bunker to

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share that but she did pass away last

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night during the show and she's left

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this earth okay there you go

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and and you know I

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I'm looking at Scott saying no if you

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were part of Hollywood back in the late

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70s throughout the 80s you were you know

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you were part of his Pirelli world it

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was everywhere and and Scott yeah he's

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yeah you know we're all we're all

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tripping because she was the nicest

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coolest funniest smartest professional

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rock and roll royalty and she you know

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she was just solid that's so special to

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so many people and yeah today

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everybody's kind of freaking out because

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you know she was just cool so just thank

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you for allowing me to do that okay all

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right let's move on and Gina would

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definitely say the show must go on you

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know buckle up kids tighten up your

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shoes and get out on that stage you know

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okay all right I'm cool I'm cool I'm

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actually in a great mood okay I'm in a

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great mood and don't forget to head over

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to on stellar you're listening to my

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voice now you've heard me talk about on

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stellar for the last couple of months

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every single night as some more updates

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were done to messaging and some other

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stuff a very a very cool update

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tightening the screws it is it's an

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extraordinary place to go and hang out

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it's on stellar comm o NS te ll a

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are.com you can use my promo code Jimmy

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okay get over there and get it done our

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next event is coming up next week it's

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June 1st through the 4th contact in the

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desert Indian Wells Palm Springs at the

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Renaissance Resort & Spa

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of course Linda's going to be there she

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is with us tonight and you can go and

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hang out and meet Linda and go and

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listen to her presentations along with

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everybody else George Noory

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is going to be here tomorrow night he

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will also be at contact in the desert

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and then of course we have Victoria is

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going to be here tomorrow night too as

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well and we do this every

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single years we you know get ready for

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contact in the desert by bringing on

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some of the speakers here to talk about

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what you know it's like a preview of

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what is gonna be going on out there and

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for those of you that can't make it to

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contact in the desert then you know we

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we get to share everybody with you and

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that's that's why we do it

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it's such a huge event and so you need

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to if you are in Southern California if

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you are making plans go and get your

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tickets now and and make your

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arrangements because this is the one

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event all year this is the big one this

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is if you're gonna make one event all

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year this is the one that you want to

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come out and and and hang out with all

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of us okay all right now last night we

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had a Theresa in Arizona and she is

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going to be teaching and presenting up

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at the SOL tech gathering which is e

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Sethi ranch and it's this August 9th

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through the 12th and all you have to do

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is go to Seoul tech gathering calm and

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the list of presenters here we've just

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added a couple more so you want to go to

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Seoul together calm and check out

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everything that we have going on because

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Cory Goods gonna be there

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we've got Jason quad james gilliland

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Matthew Ryan I'm so looking forward to

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Matthew Makayla Sheldon Mikayla Sheldon

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remote viewing and channeling and

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everything that we talked about on this

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show with Theresa and Holly and Mary

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Gabrielle

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Ashley John lund Dana Harvey remote

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viewing channeling life after death all

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of these nd ease all of these things

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we're gonna be talking about and

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teaching about up there so come and hang

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out with this four days of celebration

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learning seeking knowledge making

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friends making memories let's go and

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hang out at the Field of Dreams

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okay it is the sole tech gathering

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August 9th through the 12th don't forget

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check out our podcast you can subscribe

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crackin today happy birthday to

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Morrissey Morrissey is 59 the Smiths

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Morrissey you know this is the truth

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you've got your Eddie Van Halen or

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you've got pick up somebody modern you

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know you've got Michael Jackson you know

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you just whatever Bono you know it's

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Madonna

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you know just pick a name Morrissey

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influenced just as many people out there

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as anybody else seriously 59 the Smiths

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a home man Morrissey today's 59 and this

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is for Rita Rita today

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Maggie cue

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is 39 all right I understand history OTV

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1981 police staking out a bridge over

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the Chattahoochee River near Atlanta

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heard a loud splash on this day and

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began chasing Wayne Williams as he

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attempts to drive away in a station

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wagon after questioning him about his

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involvement in the unprecedented string

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of 23 child murders in Atlanta over the

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previous two years

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Williams was released however he was

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arrested two days later when the body of

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Neff Daniel Carter was found in the

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river near the bridge where they heard

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the splash Williams was later convicted

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for two of the murders and 22 other

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cases were closed he was sentenced to

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life in prison

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happened on this day in 1981 Fader fact

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here we go Bader fact the current

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library in Alexandria Egypt has a copy

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of all of the web pages on every website

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on the Internet

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since it started in 1996 they got a copy

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of Jupiter's radio.com at the Library of

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Alexandria in Egypt now I got to say

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tonight very special guest Lynn them all

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now she's gonna be with us at the bottom

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of the hour I can't believe I just smack

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my lips and I smack my lips because I'm

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drinking River moon coffee my goodness

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that's good coffee

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so talking about Gina Gina is M Pirelli

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earlier and I was sitting here thinking

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today about rock and roll stories and

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everybody wants me to tell another

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rock-and-roll story and now and so I was

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thinking today I'm just going wow yeah I

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can't really do that well on the air

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can't do that one either that wouldn't

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you do on private but and I was thinking

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some of the cool moments right and I

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have I have a story here this might be

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the most rock-and-roll story I've got

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well it's not the most but it's

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definitely rock and roll and and it goes

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like this and and some I swear to you

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every word of what I'm about to say is

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true all right there's a guitar player

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here in Los Angeles his name is Michael

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Landau and Michael Landau is a studio

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cat that has played recorded for

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everybody but ba Scaggs Joni Mitchell's

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seal Michael Jackson James Taylor

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Richard mark Steve Perry Pink Floyd

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Roger Daltrey

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Glenn Frey Miles Davis right

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okay he's that great an amazing guitar

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player and he's played for another

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hundred bands that he's forgotten about

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and he is the guitar players guitar

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player and he's got a style it's very

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hard to explain boo but when he's

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playing the Michael Landau's style it's

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like a combination of Frank Zappa meets

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you got to go crazy you got to go crazy

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talk

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meets beetlejuice crazy style an amazing

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player not of this world

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great and he's the kind of guy that

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Steve Vai goes okay well you know yeah

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you know I play pretty good man but

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Michael and al is a real guitar player

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Michael and Al's like that okay

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and so he's he he has a band the these

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to play a lot a little power trio here

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in Los Angeles called the raging

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hongki's

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his drummer was is Abe laborious junior

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an able boreal Junior you've seen play

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in so many different bands but right now

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he's playing with Paul McCartney's Sofia

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and he's been playing with Paul for a

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while but Abe is a big dude man he's a

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big guy and it's just one of the Maisie

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plays his drumsticks are like tree

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trunks plays with baseball bats and so

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forth anyway

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a a blue boreal Junu great power trio

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and so Michael calls me up and now we

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weren't best friends or anything like

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that we just became close friends for a

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couple of years any you know we you know

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so anyway I came home with it by phone

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during a stupid man I'm playing the

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coconut teaser tonight put you on the

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list

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I said okay I'll be there alright so I

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pack up go to Hollywood and for the

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coconut teaser and the raging hongki's

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I'm gonna say there was probably 50

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people there now for the teaser for the

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room you know it's you know half full

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right probably holds a hundred max down

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but anyway so I'm there and I'm standing

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oh oh no let me back up so out on the

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patio before the show with just next to

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the stage there's a stage door that goes

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from the patio and you walk straight out

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on the stage and I'm out there you know

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hanging out with the guys and yeah you

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know drinks whatever and then so we go

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from there we go on boom they're playing

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and during the second song maybe the

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third song and I'm standing right in

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front of Michael with my arms crossed it

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uh just checking him out and he's two

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feet in front of me and he's just

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slaying I mean and he's doing this

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melodic long guitar solo and and but

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he's only like a quarter of the way

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through it and this is what happens

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he takes his guitar and he grabs the

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vibrato bar he's raging out on it

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holding the guitar up and it's right you

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know I could reach out and touch the

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guitar and he breaks a guitar string

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right he looks at his guitar and he

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looks at me in my eyeballs takes his

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guitar turns around and Pierce's his

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guitar amp just get a head of the guitar

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into the guitar amp cycle what pulls it

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out rank rank Grand Marshal for 12

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guitar cavities loses his mind and then

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he turns to me he looks at the guitar

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and he turns to me and says put a new

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string on it and he hands me the guitar

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and I take it and I go over to the side

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of the stage he he had a backup guitar

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that apparently wasn't ready to play or

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whatever so he goes up and he's talking

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to the crowd and does this monologue and

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I run over and I'm going through his

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guitar case and this is no joke and and

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I got like a cigarette lighter and my

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friend Rob Casares was with me I I find

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a pack of strings I find its string up

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the guitar I tuned it like cranking down

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took me like five minutes and he's out

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there monologuing with the audience

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about the waitresses and drinks and life

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and whatever and I go back I hand him

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the guitar he plugs in the guitar turns

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it up like hits a chord it's in tune and

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that note and

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and and finishes the song actually he

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finishes the set and after that we we

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walk out ok so then this is the funny

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part alright no that was the funny part

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of the story extends so I go up on stage

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and I go up to Abe Laboral and it goes

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because he meant that was amazing we

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were laughing about it and Michael was

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pretty cool and I'm helping Abe you know

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we get all the gear out and I'm like a

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roadie all of a sudden and we get

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everything out and I'm and I'm talking

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to Michael off of the side of the stage

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and he acted like nothing happened and I

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didn't I didn't I didn't bring it up and

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my my whole point to all of this is that

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you have moments for me that was that

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was where you can die and go to heaven

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story and it was one of the coolest

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things that I could you know share with

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you but for Michael it was never talked

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about and and and Here I am sharing this

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story with you today he's so many years

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later I don't even know if he remembers

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it but it was one of those cool things

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now back to why this story is so

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important guitar players in Los Angeles

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and this is like this all around the

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world but it is really bad in Los

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Angeles and especially in the 80s and

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90s when this happened with Michael in

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the 90s guitar players are everywhere

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really good ones are everywhere and so

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guitar players don't really hang out

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right don't really hang out not two

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guitar players it just doesn't happen

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and we go to a club and you go to see

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somebody

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Michael Landau whatever you you as a

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guitar player you stand on the back wall

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you know with your arms crossed and

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you're just like looking at the dude and

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you're stealing licks and you're doing

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all of that

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but if dude breaks a string and he needs

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your help the last string in the last

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thing Jordan just says which stream was

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the last thing you're gonna do was go

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and offer assistance you want him to

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break a string you just do and and there

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you go and I I was there the moment was

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right and it was it was a classic moment

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so if you ever get a chance go and seek

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out Michael and ow any of his stuff by

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the way

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online and listen to some of his songs

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and look at some of the artists that he

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has played with chances are one of your

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favorite songs I'm not exaggerating at

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all chances are you've heard him play

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quite a few times and he just didn't

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know it he is he's one of those guys and

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he is just an amazing guitar player in a

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cool moment and I just wanted to share a

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rock and roll story with you tonight as

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opposed to being you know the sad guy

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because I'm not alright so there you go

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let's get out of here let's get Linda in

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it's gonna be a great conversation

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tonight Linda Moulton Howe tomorrow

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night George Noory is going to be here

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Victoria Guevara is gonna be here too as

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well

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bunch of surprise guests it's going to

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to have Linda on tomorrow night but then

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I couldn't have had Linda on tonight

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with me so my selfish ways I was like

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nah I want I want I want the full Linda

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tonight here on fade to black with all

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of you Linda Moulton Howe is here she's

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a graduate of Stanford University with a

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master's degree in communication she has

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devoted her documentary film television

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radio writing and reporting career to

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productions concerning science medicine

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in the environment miss Howe has

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received three regional Emmys a national

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Emmy nomination and a station Peabody

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Award among others linda has earthfiles

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calm of chorus but she also has her own

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radio program of john burroughs over on

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aliens since its first season and she

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has a new series on gaia called

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truth hunters and this is my favorite

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part she has traveled to Venezuela Peru

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Brazil England Norway France Switzerland

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the Netherlands Yugoslavia Turkey

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Ethiopia Kenya Egypt Australia Japan

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Canada Mexico the Yucatan and Puerto

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Rico

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in addition to Oliver research on Earth

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files Linda now has and tonight we're

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doing it all she has spoken all around

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the world and tonight we are going to

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cover so many different subjects that

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for her as a journalist are important to

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her and her pursuit of them so we're

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gonna do everything that we can tonight

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and we're gonna try to squeeze it all in

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we're going to do our best because it's

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Linda Moulton Howes and good evening

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Jimmy thank you very very much I have

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had an astonishing life and it continues

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to be even more astonished

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I don't believe that I have ever had so

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many interactions with people around the

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world on questions that have to do with

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are we alone in the universe and a kind

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of an astronomical mystery that persists

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that is going to be my opening lecture

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at the the upcoming contact in Indian

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Wells what about these fast radio bursts

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that some people in the science

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community say it maybe it's a neutrons

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are dancing with obstacle and others

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including an interview that I have done

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recently with a head of the astronomy

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department at Harvard they are seriously

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Jimmy contemplating the possibility that

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fast radio bursts that no one heard

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until 2007 so this is a mystery

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unfolding from 2007 to 2008 een and

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ongoing nobody had seen or heard them

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but now what I'm going to say is an

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astounding statement and it will explain

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partly why I've had the life I've led

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because when I hear a sentence like what

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I'm going to say right I want to get to

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the bottom of it I want to know exactly

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what the truth is that's why I am a

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truth hunter and here it is these bursts

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each one that lasts only about 5 to 6

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milliseconds each way less than a second

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the energy is equivalent to 500 million

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times the power of our Sun what does

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that tell you yeah what is that what

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does that say to you Marion yes half a

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billion of our stock what does that say

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well in the first in the 2000 back in

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2007 that question was are we dealing

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with something astronomical

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nobody could come up with what could

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produce that kind of energy in less than

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half a second and it's now known that

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it's one to three billion light years I

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think they're getting a consensus that

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it might be more three billion than one

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but it's a long long way away and when

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when I started following this and

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reading everything that I could about it

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and thinking back if you go back to

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right after the first headlines in

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science about the 2007 news in January

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of 2008 even channel 2 KTVU in San

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Francisco picked up on this and they did

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a bulletin they did they broke open in

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their news room and they said a mystery

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signal had been recorded by an

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Australian radio telescope which is they

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are the scientists that have been seeing

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this and recording it and here is such

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an interesting quote from Eric started

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why it was a mystery why news straight

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mainstream news caught mm-hmm cut their

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attention with this and they said quote

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across the globe researchers search for

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signs of life in space were abuzz this

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week with word that a mystery signal has

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been picked up by a giant radio

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telescope and now the dilemma is how do

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you answer it and then there was the

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scientists at UC Berkeley and he said

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that dilemma is compounded by the fact

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that the signal may never be completely

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decoded and back then that's what they

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were thinking that this is some kind of

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communication and he said we probably

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won't be able to decode it

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we'll know something's out there but we

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won't know much about their civilization

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close quote

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that's how all of this began this is an

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intelligent signal this is coming from

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far away it is equivalent to half a

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billion of our Suns it probably is

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another civilization okay now jump

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all the way to January of 2017 and there

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was more news repeating fast radio

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bursts and they had it closer to the

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distance 2.5 billion light-years from

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Earth and the question that was being

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raised this is just a year ago is this

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alien intelligence so I called up the

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one person that I thought might be

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willing to talk about this because he is

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also on the board of project starshot

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which is hopefully in another literally

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two three years we may send off

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artificial intelligence toward Alpha

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Centauri and if we do it's going to be

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another breakthrough with technology

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trying to reach out into the start

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looking for other life and this man is

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avi Loeb he's PhD he's chair of the

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astronomy department at Harvard and he

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is a delight to talk with and when I

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asked him for his opinion about what

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this could be he already had put

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together a paper that he sent me and we

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ended up discussing the paper his

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proposal his hypothesis a year ago is

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that these huge fast radio bursts could

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be the first evidence of light speed

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transport by other intelligences that is

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in a paper that he presented and was

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published now that was just a year ago

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in the last three or four months other

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scientist has come forward and said no

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we don't think that we're dealing with

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light speed transportation no we don't

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think for dealing with the civilization

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we think we're dealing with some weird

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black hole

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mon-star combination but after that came

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out there was more more papers more

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scientists coming in saying all of the

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reasons why this needs to be studied as

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a possibility like avi loges proposal

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that it's the first evidence of light

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speed transportation one to three

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billion light years from the earth and I

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think that this is some of the most

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exciting material that is on our planet

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today to contemplate because in light of

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the wars in spite of the tribal violence

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in spite of feeling that everybody has

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that it's a revolutionary time and

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people are nervous about it the idea

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that we are maybe in Elon Musk if he has

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his way we will be launching to Mars in

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2020 no beyond that ship doctor Loeb at

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Harvard he in the project starshot they

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want to take big lasers and get them

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aimed right at what they're selling on

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wave wafer waa fer wafer spaceship

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meaning small as he was explaining to me

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this he said think of your iPhone

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anybody's iPhone think of how much it

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can do what it can do and he said we

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just take that same kind of condensed

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and very advanced computer ability and

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we put a big intense laser or lasers

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aimed with photons on a shield that

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protects the computer and the artificial

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intelligence but we start moving it out

811
00:43:46,690 --> 00:43:43,369
and he said we may get to 25 to 30% the

812
00:43:49,029 --> 00:43:46,700
speed of light on our first wafers craft

813
00:43:54,039 --> 00:43:49,039
and then want to aim it to Alpha

814
00:43:56,710 --> 00:43:54,049
Centauri well if they got it Jimmy to 20

815
00:44:00,640 --> 00:43:56,720
to 30% of the speed of

816
00:44:04,060 --> 00:44:00,650
white if they might get there in 1617

817
00:44:06,250 --> 00:44:04,070
years right and and that would

818
00:44:10,570 --> 00:44:06,260
definitely be in a lifetime of a

819
00:44:13,420 --> 00:44:10,580
scientist and then as asked one of the

820
00:44:16,900 --> 00:44:13,430
men said we need somebody else out there

821
00:44:19,570 --> 00:44:16,910
to build some kind of a return so that

822
00:44:21,970 --> 00:44:19,580
we could get all of our information and

823
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:21,980
get it back to earth barring that they

824
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:24,610
will have to wait to get the data but

825
00:44:32,170 --> 00:44:29,210
professor load says imagine this okay so

826
00:44:34,630 --> 00:44:32,180
the first craft starts being launched

827
00:44:37,540 --> 00:44:34,640
toward Alpha Centauri at 25 or 30

828
00:44:40,330 --> 00:44:37,550
percent the speed of light well that we

829
00:44:43,900 --> 00:44:40,340
launch in a few months another one or a

830
00:44:45,790 --> 00:44:43,910
year and it's going faster and then we

831
00:44:49,240 --> 00:44:45,800
get to half the speed of light then we

832
00:44:52,060 --> 00:44:49,250
get to three-quarters maybe we even get

833
00:44:56,830 --> 00:44:52,070
up to seventy-five percent the speed of

834
00:45:02,050 --> 00:44:56,840
light those successive wafer crafts will

835
00:45:05,590 --> 00:45:02,060
pass the first craft they will continue

836
00:45:08,380 --> 00:45:05,600
in an evolutionary reach out to the

837
00:45:12,220 --> 00:45:08,390
point that we might by the time that we

838
00:45:15,190 --> 00:45:12,230
are at 50% to 75% the speed of light

839
00:45:17,650 --> 00:45:15,200
sending a craft toward our nearest Alpha

840
00:45:20,590 --> 00:45:17,660
Centauri it's only four light-years from

841
00:45:23,110 --> 00:45:20,600
Earth mmm-hmm that we will have some way

842
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:23,120
to accelerate getting the signals back

843
00:45:29,170 --> 00:45:25,370
because what are we what do we really

844
00:45:33,430 --> 00:45:29,180
want to know is the rocky planet out

845
00:45:36,970 --> 00:45:33,440
there Proxima Centauri is it possibly

846
00:45:38,890 --> 00:45:36,980
capable of supporting life now just in

847
00:45:41,050 --> 00:45:38,900
the lever things happening so fast just

848
00:45:43,510 --> 00:45:41,060
in the last three or four months there

849
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:43,520
was a big story about the fact that they

850
00:45:52,090 --> 00:45:47,810
have measured a huge solar flare from

851
00:45:54,220 --> 00:45:52,100
the nearby star there's two binary stars

852
00:45:57,310 --> 00:45:54,230
and and what they think is this rocky

853
00:46:02,050 --> 00:45:57,320
planet and they're pretty much convinced

854
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:02,060
that the huge solar flare from the Alpha

855
00:46:08,140 --> 00:46:05,090
Centauri system would have fried the

856
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:08,150
rocky planet that is the near as nearby

857
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:10,490
and that might mean

858
00:46:15,580 --> 00:46:14,570
that exoplanet could not sustain life as

859
00:46:19,210 --> 00:46:15,590
we know it

860
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:19,220
credits sustain other life who knows but

861
00:46:26,950 --> 00:46:22,810
here we move to another increasingly

862
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:26,960
discussed sort of shocking statement

863
00:46:32,380 --> 00:46:28,970
among some astronomers that I've talked

864
00:46:36,850 --> 00:46:32,390
to we've gone through I think it's over

865
00:46:40,450 --> 00:46:36,860
a thousand exoplanets now and we don't

866
00:46:44,410 --> 00:46:40,460
have an exoplanet that has all the

867
00:46:49,270 --> 00:46:44,420
conditions of our remarkable earth we're

868
00:46:52,390 --> 00:46:49,280
on a planet with 2/3 deep oceans lots of

869
00:46:54,580 --> 00:46:52,400
seeds it's very dynamic you could call

870
00:46:57,490 --> 00:46:54,590
this an unstable planet because of all

871
00:47:00,340 --> 00:46:57,500
the volcanoes and earthquakes and the

872
00:47:03,340 --> 00:47:00,350
fact that it has been a snowball two or

873
00:47:08,530 --> 00:47:03,350
three times and goes through ice ages

874
00:47:12,460 --> 00:47:08,540
and that and yet and yet look at 7.2

875
00:47:14,350 --> 00:47:12,470
billion Homo Sapien and Counting are on

876
00:47:16,599 --> 00:47:14,360
the surface of this planet and a lot

877
00:47:20,170 --> 00:47:16,609
work underground in the military and

878
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:20,180
intelligence world we may have another

879
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:23,690
earth that would astonish us below the

880
00:47:29,890 --> 00:47:26,050
surface if we knew all the truth

881
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:29,900
nevertheless on this planet it has all

882
00:47:35,020 --> 00:47:32,690
of this water it has a strong magnetic

883
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:35,030
field because of the dynamo that

884
00:47:42,460 --> 00:47:38,930
magnetic field deflects so many solar

885
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:42,470
particles and helps protect this planet

886
00:47:49,770 --> 00:47:45,410
and we have all of this huge variety of

887
00:47:53,380 --> 00:47:49,780
life and it reminds me of the first

888
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:53,390
hypnosis session that I ever attended

889
00:48:00,450 --> 00:47:55,490
when I was investigating the animal

890
00:48:05,230 --> 00:48:00,460
mutilations and heard an abductee saying

891
00:48:08,770 --> 00:48:05,240
under hypnosis that she got the

892
00:48:12,580 --> 00:48:08,780
impression that one of the things that

893
00:48:16,930 --> 00:48:12,590
humans didn't understand was how unique

894
00:48:19,750 --> 00:48:16,940
and precious our planet is and that many

895
00:48:23,109 --> 00:48:19,760
many species of other intelligences have

896
00:48:24,450 --> 00:48:23,119
used it as a laboratory and when you

897
00:48:29,740 --> 00:48:24,460
start thinking about

898
00:48:33,550 --> 00:48:29,750
strange bizarre confusing history of our

899
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:33,560
planet and we haven't even gone into all

900
00:48:38,890 --> 00:48:35,690
of the subjects that we can tonight

901
00:48:42,490 --> 00:48:38,900
having to do with harvesting of genes

902
00:48:45,430 --> 00:48:42,500
and manipulating genes and so many other

903
00:48:48,460 --> 00:48:45,440
subjects but when you start looking at

904
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:48,470
the planet a something that might be

905
00:48:55,510 --> 00:48:51,410
more unique than we realize among all of

906
00:48:58,240 --> 00:48:55,520
the planets and that other civilizations

907
00:49:01,840 --> 00:48:58,250
looks a place that they can mix and

908
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:01,850
match genes for their own experiment and

909
00:49:07,990 --> 00:49:04,970
for whatever their goals are then some

910
00:49:11,290 --> 00:49:08,000
of the strange history past present and

911
00:49:12,250 --> 00:49:11,300
future on our planet might begin to make

912
00:49:14,950 --> 00:49:12,260
more sense

913
00:49:19,870 --> 00:49:14,960
let me get so much your comment on

914
00:49:23,110 --> 00:49:19,880
something because what everything that

915
00:49:26,830 --> 00:49:23,120
you just said I think all of us should

916
00:49:29,230 --> 00:49:26,840
take note of because we are out there

917
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:29,240
looking for exoplanets we are out there

918
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:30,770
looking for life we're out there looking

919
00:49:35,410 --> 00:49:33,410
for fast radio bursts this is what we do

920
00:49:39,550 --> 00:49:35,420
and yes

921
00:49:44,380 --> 00:49:39,560
earth is unique so you have to think

922
00:49:46,390 --> 00:49:44,390
about what ET or other you know cultures

923
00:49:49,900 --> 00:49:46,400
are out there do they're doing the very

924
00:49:53,620 --> 00:49:49,910
same thing they found us already they're

925
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:53,630
looking for those exoplanets too and we

926
00:49:58,390 --> 00:49:55,490
stand out like you say you know we're

927
00:50:01,270 --> 00:49:58,400
shiny beacon bright blue beautiful

928
00:50:03,670 --> 00:50:01,280
planet right they found us

929
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:03,680
they've been here they're doing the same

930
00:50:13,510 --> 00:50:09,170
things we are and michio kaku really put

931
00:50:15,790 --> 00:50:13,520
this into context long ago when he laid

932
00:50:19,270 --> 00:50:15,800
out I think it was his hyperspace book

933
00:50:20,110 --> 00:50:19,280
he said let's take the age of our

934
00:50:22,630 --> 00:50:20,120
universe

935
00:50:25,990 --> 00:50:22,640
it's about thirteen point eight thirteen

936
00:50:28,450 --> 00:50:26,000
point nine billion light years that is

937
00:50:33,850 --> 00:50:28,460
plenty of time for there to have been

938
00:50:37,780 --> 00:50:33,860
we'll call it epoch one or universe pipe

939
00:50:41,380 --> 00:50:37,790
one and and if you divide third

940
00:50:45,750 --> 00:50:41,390
want to buy three or four you can have

941
00:50:47,020 --> 00:50:45,760
three or four epochs each one evolving

942
00:50:50,830 --> 00:50:47,030
planets

943
00:50:54,100 --> 00:50:50,840
perhaps life I assume life and then you

944
00:50:57,010 --> 00:50:54,110
get to the second and the first one is

945
00:50:59,770 --> 00:50:57,020
aging into the second generation right

946
00:51:02,740 --> 00:50:59,780
second generation is aging and evolving

947
00:51:05,650 --> 00:51:02,750
and advancing into the third we might be

948
00:51:09,790 --> 00:51:05,660
in the fourth we might be in the baby

949
00:51:13,810 --> 00:51:09,800
category of this big huge complex

950
00:51:17,820 --> 00:51:13,820
universe and therefore the idea that

951
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:17,830
there are entities that were described

952
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:20,570
assuming that the transcript of the

953
00:51:26,170 --> 00:51:23,410
Ronald Reagan briefing on

954
00:51:31,060 --> 00:51:26,180
extraterrestrials and UFOs in March of

955
00:51:36,820 --> 00:51:31,070
1981 is a Batum correct it was put out

956
00:51:39,700 --> 00:51:36,830
in the full material back in 2007 and I

957
00:51:42,130 --> 00:51:39,710
asked a person in Washington DC who has

958
00:51:45,430 --> 00:51:42,140
been very trustworthy and helpful to me

959
00:51:49,450 --> 00:51:45,440
over the years and asked them to look at

960
00:51:51,580 --> 00:51:49,460
the Reagan transcript allegedly with

961
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:51,590
Casey that he appointed as the CIA

962
00:51:59,170 --> 00:51:55,610
director Ronald Reagan went with CIA NSA

963
00:52:01,630 --> 00:51:59,180
dia and other people who were analysts

964
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:01,640
and they went to Camp David and they

965
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:04,130
spent three days briefing Ronald Reagan

966
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:09,410
on UFOs and ETS and specifically five

967
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:13,850
different types now one of the things

968
00:52:18,460 --> 00:52:16,130
that is really significant in the Reagan

969
00:52:22,540 --> 00:52:18,470
administration about those five that

970
00:52:25,210 --> 00:52:22,550
they go over the top one is the even

971
00:52:29,230 --> 00:52:25,220
that we have all heard about since the

972
00:52:31,810 --> 00:52:29,240
Betty and Barney Hill case of 1961 they

973
00:52:34,690 --> 00:52:31,820
have pear-shaped heads as opposed to

974
00:52:37,090 --> 00:52:34,700
pointed chins or balloon shaped heads or

975
00:52:39,810 --> 00:52:37,100
anything they're pear-shaped and they

976
00:52:42,430 --> 00:52:39,820
appear to be a what I call a prime

977
00:52:47,110 --> 00:52:42,440
intelligence they would be something

978
00:52:49,860 --> 00:52:47,120
that evolved a system somewhere to an

979
00:52:51,220 --> 00:52:49,870
advanced point that they could start

980
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:51,230
hybridizing

981
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:54,650
cloning making cyborgs getting out into

982
00:53:01,210 --> 00:52:56,930
space and moving perhaps point-to-point

983
00:53:03,790 --> 00:53:01,220
as Einstein says eventually we could so

984
00:53:06,820 --> 00:53:03,800
they would be a prime intelligence the

985
00:53:09,609 --> 00:53:06,830
next two on that list that was presented

986
00:53:14,050 --> 00:53:09,619
to President Ronald Reagan according to

987
00:53:19,540 --> 00:53:14,060
the serpo excerpt transcript where one

988
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:19,550
was called arc alloys AR c HQ UL ID r

989
00:53:27,700 --> 00:53:22,970
colloid possibly based on the Greek word

990
00:53:32,349 --> 00:53:27,710
Archon Lord or leader the third on the

991
00:53:37,830 --> 00:53:32,359
list was quad Lloyd that was defined as

992
00:53:43,750 --> 00:53:37,840
being a hybridization by the even

993
00:53:48,609 --> 00:53:43,760
crossing a praying mantis insect with a

994
00:53:52,660 --> 00:53:48,619
lizard reptile and insect the are

995
00:53:56,410 --> 00:53:52,670
colloid are also described as being a

996
00:54:00,670 --> 00:53:56,420
hybrid created by the eben so out of

997
00:54:04,930 --> 00:54:00,680
five presented three come from the same

998
00:54:07,930 --> 00:54:04,940
system to being made by the one prime

999
00:54:11,740 --> 00:54:07,940
intelligence and that the description

1000
00:54:17,260 --> 00:54:11,750
implies that what the evens have done is

1001
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:17,270
make any and all kinds of androids match

1002
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:19,970
they make them to match certain

1003
00:54:26,470 --> 00:54:23,930
planetary systems and then they put them

1004
00:54:30,070 --> 00:54:26,480
out on different planets that extends

1005
00:54:33,580 --> 00:54:30,080
the evens territorial ability in the

1006
00:54:38,290 --> 00:54:33,590
Milky Way galaxy and beyond and whatever

1007
00:54:40,740 --> 00:54:38,300
they're making then P their allies so

1008
00:54:44,310 --> 00:54:40,750
you would end up with a prime

1009
00:54:49,090 --> 00:54:44,320
civilization that would extend

1010
00:54:52,540 --> 00:54:49,100
territorial reach its power and its

1011
00:54:55,780 --> 00:54:52,550
ability to harvest and interact with all

1012
00:54:59,230 --> 00:54:55,790
kinds of systems by creating life-forms

1013
00:55:02,560 --> 00:54:59,240
that you would own operating control so

1014
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:02,570
to speak and it would keep extending out

1015
00:55:07,519 --> 00:55:04,650
into the Milky Way galaxy

1016
00:55:12,829 --> 00:55:07,529
as this is being laid out for Ronald

1017
00:55:16,309 --> 00:55:12,839
Reagan the fourth one Hepler Lloyd in

1018
00:55:21,470 --> 00:55:16,319
Latin Hepler is seven don't know what

1019
00:55:24,890 --> 00:55:21,480
that means but the last one raises the

1020
00:55:28,670 --> 00:55:24,900
issue that comes up over and over if all

1021
00:55:31,460 --> 00:55:28,680
of our contacts with other intelligences

1022
00:55:33,799 --> 00:55:31,470
were all happy and supportive and

1023
00:55:36,019 --> 00:55:33,809
wonderful I think we would have been

1024
00:55:39,980 --> 00:55:36,029
told that seventy years ago in World War

1025
00:55:43,010 --> 00:55:39,990
two the fact that the fifth on this list

1026
00:55:46,490 --> 00:55:43,020
that's given to Ronald Reagan is called

1027
00:55:51,410 --> 00:55:46,500
a Toronto Lloyd and that it is defined

1028
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:51,420
as a quote this is a quote nasty insect

1029
00:55:58,760 --> 00:55:55,010
close quote that can disguise itself

1030
00:56:03,349 --> 00:55:58,770
camouflage itself as blond humanoids on

1031
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:03,359
earth is a very eerie thing to

1032
00:56:13,430 --> 00:56:10,410
contemplate now the issue of these of

1033
00:56:17,420 --> 00:56:13,440
this fifth why it fits in to where I

1034
00:56:20,059 --> 00:56:17,430
started it says right in the Ronald

1035
00:56:24,650 --> 00:56:20,069
Reagan briefing that the trono Lloyd

1036
00:56:30,829 --> 00:56:24,660
insects are estimated to be 1,000 or

1037
00:56:33,319 --> 00:56:30,839
more years in advance of us they bend

1038
00:56:35,900 --> 00:56:33,329
space and time they move through space

1039
00:56:39,319 --> 00:56:35,910
tunnels they move back and forth in time

1040
00:56:43,510 --> 00:56:39,329
and this is very interesting that they

1041
00:56:46,609 --> 00:56:43,520
come from a system a planetary system

1042
00:56:48,500 --> 00:56:46,619
Epsilon Eridani that's only ten point

1043
00:56:50,539 --> 00:56:48,510
five light-years from where we're

1044
00:56:53,690 --> 00:56:50,549
sitting right now on earth in this solar

1045
00:56:55,730 --> 00:56:53,700
system ten point five light-years is

1046
00:56:59,089 --> 00:56:55,740
closer than Zeta reticulan I went into

1047
00:57:01,220 --> 00:56:59,099
that is about 39 40 light-years from

1048
00:57:03,049 --> 00:57:01,230
Earth and that's where the evens are

1049
00:57:06,109 --> 00:57:03,059
supposed to come from so that would mean

1050
00:57:09,380 --> 00:57:06,119
our friends the ebin are about three

1051
00:57:13,010 --> 00:57:09,390
times further from Earth than a possible

1052
00:57:14,079 --> 00:57:13,020
potential hostile threat at Epsilon

1053
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:14,089
Eridani

1054
00:57:20,839 --> 00:57:18,450
further if the

1055
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:20,849
some as its described in the Reagan

1056
00:57:26,630 --> 00:57:24,570
briefing is true they don't have or

1057
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:26,640
let's put it this way turn it back

1058
00:57:30,349 --> 00:57:28,530
around I started to say they don't have

1059
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:30,359
the elements we have let's put it the

1060
00:57:34,190 --> 00:57:30,930
other way

1061
00:57:37,460 --> 00:57:34,200
they have elements we've never heard of

1062
00:57:39,859 --> 00:57:37,470
before that we don't understand that we

1063
00:57:42,170 --> 00:57:39,869
have encountered things that are so

1064
00:57:45,710 --> 00:57:42,180
advanced that we don't know what to do

1065
00:57:50,180 --> 00:57:45,720
we have no understanding and so in one

1066
00:57:52,730 --> 00:57:50,190
briefing for President Reagan you have

1067
00:57:54,980 --> 00:57:52,740
all of the ingredients of what all of us

1068
00:58:01,089 --> 00:57:54,990
are concerned about today and are trying

1069
00:58:05,089 --> 00:58:01,099
to understand hybridization are humans

1070
00:58:08,329 --> 00:58:05,099
hybrids created by the even it's been

1071
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:08,339
suggested and that we would be on planet

1072
00:58:13,010 --> 00:58:10,410
earth because we were created

1073
00:58:15,980 --> 00:58:13,020
specifically to be on this planet right

1074
00:58:19,099 --> 00:58:15,990
while others are on other planets and

1075
00:58:24,230 --> 00:58:19,109
that at the first this is the first

1076
00:58:25,940 --> 00:58:24,240
moment the 2018 is the sense that the

1077
00:58:28,970 --> 00:58:25,950
entire planet

1078
00:58:32,569 --> 00:58:28,980
the consciousnesses of the millennial

1079
00:58:37,329 --> 00:58:32,579
generation around the entire planet

1080
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:37,339
they are irritated with government

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silent policies of denial that insist on

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the old old line that were alone in the

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universe when that's preposterous and

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that where it's almost like being inside

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of a slow-motion revolution in which

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generations and minds that are already

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way far beyond where the government

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policies have been since World War two

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and that when we get that headline that

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we're not alone in this universe we

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never have been then we will be catching

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up to where things should have been

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thousands of years ago let's take a

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break right there Linda thank you for

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that and when we come back Linda can we

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talk a little artificial intelligence

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yeah

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Howe is with us this is fade to black

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I'm use to me church on the GameChanger

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network in kg ra the planet you can

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follow me at a church radio on Twitter

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you can follow Linda at earthfiles I'll

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be right back stay with us

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[Music]

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this is fade to black with Jimmy Church

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and the one and only kgr a radio the

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[Music]

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welcome back fade to black appeals to me

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church follow me on twitter at JDO can

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follow linda at earth files right there

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on twitter and tonight we're gonna do it

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all we're gonna do everything A to Z and

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I want to remind everybody tomorrow

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night George Noory is going to be here

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Victoria Guevara is going to be here too

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as well from contacted in the desert

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we've got a bunch of special surprise

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guests that are going to do some

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drive-bys and hang out with all of us

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but tonight we've got Linda all to

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ourselves and Linda now check this out

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01:04:16,790 --> 01:04:11,850
a couple of days ago do my research I

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01:04:19,850 --> 01:04:16,800
listened to a couple of developers for

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one from Google and one from Facebook

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01:04:26,410 --> 01:04:23,190
and they both agreed and made these

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statements in this presentation that

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artificial intelligence is something

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that we shouldn't be afraid of and that

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we would definitely not only have

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safeguards built into all systems but

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artificial intelligence is only what we

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put into it as well and it wouldn't

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advance past us and I stopped I stopped

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and thought to myself that statement

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from them scares the crap out of me

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because they're trying to write they're

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trying to smokescreen and that and and

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telling us we have nothing to worry

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01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:05,070
about says to me we have everything to

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worry about when you hear something like

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that what goes through your mind the

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title of my lecture on Sunday at the

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upcoming contact on June 3rd and it is

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is AI an existential threat to humans

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and it all comes from listening and

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reading a lot from people like Elon Musk

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for people like Robert boström

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considered one of the 100 top minds in

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the world having to do with analytical

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concerns and here tonight what I'll do

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because it

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a very short point it focuses down to

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why I am raising this question and is

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why what you've just outlined definitely

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is like a political context that the

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some computer companies are trying to

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give the world and here is what I'm

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going to explain started me off on all

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of this and that I hope that a lot of

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people who are listening tonight will go

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to contact and will look at where I am

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speaking on various subjects and that

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this lecturer on that Sunday it has a

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lot in it so what I'm going to bring up

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is now the I guess you want to say the

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moment that I felt that it was so

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important to get into this and the more

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I've gotten into it the more I feel this

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is one of the most important subjects

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for everybody to pay attention to so now

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yes this is going back to not quite a

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year ago it was in August of 2017 and I

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have had connection with three or four

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really solid important whistleblowers

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for about two years on three of them and

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about half a year on another and they

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all have various facets of concern about

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AI and they are all deeply involved with

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the issue of the alien presence on this

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planet throughout our solar system

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throughout the Milky Way galaxy and

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beyond they come from military

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backgrounds that are seals and Marines

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they're heavy-duty guys and they're the

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kind of men that when when the

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Department of Defense and the Pentagon

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want the best of the best for the most

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complicated and challenging

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possibilities of investigating or doing

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something

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01:08:08,030 --> 01:08:05,220
they want is for these men to get out of

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the military and turn around and go into

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contract in Special Forces so that they

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can be under the leadership and control

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of the Intel agencies and that's the

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situation okay so this one particular

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person has given me information for

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about two years or year-and-a-half and

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when the phone rang we don't talk very

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often and not very much and when it does

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01:08:43,250 --> 01:08:39,060
ring with his number I pay attention and

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01:08:45,650 --> 01:08:43,260
know that I better get a notebook and

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pen and write fast because we can only

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stay on the phone for two or three

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minutes and this is what happened on

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Saturday August 26 2017 the folks he

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calls he says you got to hear this I

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can't stay on long quote from my note

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the top robotics company in Japan this

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week meaning August 2017 for robots

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being developed for military

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applications to become robotic soldiers

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killed twenty-nine humans in the lab

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with something that shot metal bullets

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the scariest part is that lab workers

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deactivated two of the robots and took

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apart the third but the fourth robot

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began restoring itself and somehow

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01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:40,200
connected to an orbiting satellite to

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download information about how to

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rebuild itself even more strongly while

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the other robots were being taken apart

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Linda he said this is serious Shi T but

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you're never going to hear about this in

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01:10:02,890 --> 01:09:59,280
the news the robotics company has too

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01:10:07,660 --> 01:10:02,900
much to lose and governments want AI

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robotic soldiers close quote and the

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operative word here Jimmy is autonomous

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autonomous robotic

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autonomous means that the algorithms

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that are built into the software of the

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robotic weapons and robots

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01:10:35,179 --> 01:10:31,590
the robots choose what is a threat

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01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:35,189
the robots choose when to shoot to kill

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the human is taken out in the United

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States currently our law says that's not

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possible that the human must stay in the

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chain of connection and any militarized

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01:10:57,679 --> 01:10:54,719
weapon or robot but that doesn't count

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01:11:00,080 --> 01:10:57,689
for North and South Korea that does not

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01:11:04,759 --> 01:11:00,090
count for Japan that does not count for

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01:11:07,969 --> 01:11:04,769
other countries and in fact upon hearing

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01:11:12,609 --> 01:11:07,979
death and beginning to do research one

1306
01:11:16,629 --> 01:11:12,619
of the things that I learned is that

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01:11:19,310 --> 01:11:16,639
Elon Musk and a hundred and sixteen AI

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01:11:22,069 --> 01:11:19,320
intelligence experts from all over the

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01:11:25,100 --> 01:11:22,079
the planet they are so concerned about

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01:11:27,139 --> 01:11:25,110
this that this past summer they sent an

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01:11:30,889 --> 01:11:27,149
open letter to the United Nations and

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01:11:35,020 --> 01:11:30,899
they said here is in a paragraph from a

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01:11:37,369 --> 01:11:35,030
letter quote lethal autonomous weapons

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01:11:40,699 --> 01:11:37,379
threatened to become the third

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01:11:43,159 --> 01:11:40,709
revolution in warfare once developed

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01:11:46,239 --> 01:11:43,169
they will permit armed conflict to be

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01:11:50,119 --> 01:11:46,249
fought at a scale greater than ever and

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01:11:52,729 --> 01:11:50,129
at timescales faster than humans can

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01:11:56,239 --> 01:11:52,739
comprehend this is one of the things

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01:11:59,689 --> 01:11:56,249
that Elon Musk keeps going and pounding

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01:12:02,389 --> 01:11:59,699
he says we are already building robots

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01:12:04,339 --> 01:12:02,399
that are faster they can lay bricks

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01:12:07,100 --> 01:12:04,349
faster they can do everything faster

1324
01:12:09,979 --> 01:12:07,110
they don't need sleep they don't have

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01:12:14,239 --> 01:12:09,989
sick time they are already beginning to

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01:12:19,429 --> 01:12:14,249
accelerate past us and last summer at

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01:12:23,770 --> 01:12:19,439
one of the AI conferences that there was

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01:12:26,869 --> 01:12:23,780
a engineer who showed how a very lovely

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01:12:28,730 --> 01:12:26,879
harmless looking little robot that had

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01:12:32,660 --> 01:12:28,740
been made for doing help in

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01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:32,670
kitchen being able to scrub and being

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01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:35,970
able to even use some kind of a knife to

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01:12:41,870 --> 01:12:38,730
cut vegetables and a screwdriver to

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01:12:44,840 --> 01:12:41,880
screw things if a door was coming loose

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01:12:48,830 --> 01:12:44,850
or a handle was coming off and all they

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01:12:53,150 --> 01:12:48,840
did was a simple hack and this little

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01:12:56,060 --> 01:12:53,160
very innocent looking robot changed in

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01:12:59,260 --> 01:12:56,070
an instant from the innocent in the

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kitchen - taking a screwdriver and

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01:13:03,950 --> 01:13:02,070
demolishing a toy rabbit that was in

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01:13:06,470 --> 01:13:03,960
front of it because they hacked it who

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01:13:10,910 --> 01:13:06,480
attacked the rabbit instead of protect

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01:13:14,390 --> 01:13:10,920
the rabbit and what they men who are

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01:13:19,910 --> 01:13:14,400
working in these issues like Elon Musk

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01:13:23,210 --> 01:13:19,920
and others they say that we must realize

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01:13:28,100 --> 01:13:23,220
that if we are moving toward autonomous

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01:13:32,600 --> 01:13:28,110
military robots then it takes the human

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01:13:35,810 --> 01:13:32,610
out of the equation that we are going to

1349
01:13:39,290 --> 01:13:35,820
be opening up a can of worms that we may

1350
01:13:42,230 --> 01:13:39,300
never be able to solve and for those who

1351
01:13:44,590 --> 01:13:42,240
would like to see and do some google

1352
01:13:49,580 --> 01:13:44,600
search and you can see for yourself

1353
01:13:52,610 --> 01:13:49,590
already along the 160 mile long border

1354
01:13:56,540 --> 01:13:52,620
between North and South Korea there is a

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01:14:04,000 --> 01:13:56,550
South Korean guard robot it is called an

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01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:04,010
S gr a one and it is autonomous these

1357
01:14:12,110 --> 01:14:10,050
SDR a one they alone decide when

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01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:12,120
something is a threat and they shoot to

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01:14:19,850 --> 01:14:16,010
kill and when you ask how many are

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01:14:20,300 --> 01:14:19,860
moving along that North South Korean

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01:14:23,690 --> 01:14:20,310
border

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01:14:27,110 --> 01:14:23,700
the answer is unknown because the

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01:14:30,530 --> 01:14:27,120
project is so highly classified and do

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01:14:34,010 --> 01:14:30,540
you know Jimmy already the more I read

1365
01:14:36,320 --> 01:14:34,020
and I'm reading a lot and files that are

1366
01:14:39,110 --> 01:14:36,330
about 8 inches high now of things that I

1367
01:14:42,450 --> 01:14:39,120
have been reading they're talking about

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01:14:46,080 --> 01:14:42,460
when I say they I mean the AI community

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01:14:47,730 --> 01:14:46,090
they're they're approaching governments

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01:14:51,210 --> 01:14:47,740
and political systems and they would

1371
01:14:54,480 --> 01:14:51,220
like to see robots like the stra one

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01:14:56,280 --> 01:14:54,490
installed not only on national borders

1373
01:15:01,070 --> 01:14:56,290
like between the United States and

1374
01:15:04,520 --> 01:15:01,080
Mexico but in airports can you imagine

1375
01:15:07,860 --> 01:15:04,530
we go through in airports now in

1376
01:15:12,570 --> 01:15:07,870
security what would it feel like if

1377
01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:12,580
there were SGR a one now in the United

1378
01:15:18,540 --> 01:15:15,010
States maybe they couldn't function on

1379
01:15:22,380 --> 01:15:18,550
independent threat to kill but they are

1380
01:15:26,310 --> 01:15:22,390
already functioning autonomously in the

1381
01:15:28,230 --> 01:15:26,320
North and South Korean border let me

1382
01:15:31,830 --> 01:15:28,240
jump in for the audience this is

1383
01:15:34,610 --> 01:15:31,840
straight off of Wikipedia the SGR a1 is

1384
01:15:37,260 --> 01:15:34,620
a type of sentry gun a weapon that fires

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01:15:41,010 --> 01:15:37,270
autonomously that was jointly developed

1386
01:15:43,110 --> 01:15:41,020
by Samsung and Korea University to

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01:15:49,410 --> 01:15:43,120
assist South Korean troops in the Korean

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01:15:51,540 --> 01:15:49,420
Demilitarized unit of its kind to have

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01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:51,550
an integrated system that includes

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01:15:57,360 --> 01:15:53,890
surveillance tracking firing and voice

1391
01:15:59,790 --> 01:15:57,370
recognition while units of the SGR a1

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01:16:01,050 --> 01:15:59,800
have been reportedly deployed their

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01:16:03,150 --> 01:16:01,060
number is unknown

1394
01:16:05,550 --> 01:16:03,160
due to the project being highly

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01:16:07,650 --> 01:16:05,560
classified and I'm looking at pictures

1396
01:16:09,500 --> 01:16:07,660
of it here and that's about the scariest

1397
01:16:17,370 --> 01:16:09,510
thing I think I've ever seen in my life

1398
01:16:19,710 --> 01:16:17,380
well and imagine as Elon Musk he did an

1399
01:16:23,070 --> 01:16:19,720
interview with the National Governors

1400
01:16:25,650 --> 01:16:23,080
Association last summer in Rhode Island

1401
01:16:29,340 --> 01:16:25,660
and there were 30 governor's an Elon

1402
01:16:33,780 --> 01:16:29,350
Musk is sitting on the stage and he says

1403
01:16:37,350 --> 01:16:33,790
I realize that a lot of people aren't

1404
01:16:41,100 --> 01:16:37,360
going to get this until robots go down

1405
01:16:45,450 --> 01:16:41,110
the street killing people quote unquote

1406
01:16:49,650 --> 01:16:45,460
right it's ethereal and everybody who is

1407
01:16:54,450 --> 01:16:49,660
calling alarm they have great concern

1408
01:16:56,220 --> 01:16:54,460
that if you take the definition of

1409
01:17:01,970 --> 01:16:56,230
artificial intelligence

1410
01:17:05,040 --> 01:17:01,980
it is code that makes its own code and

1411
01:17:08,910 --> 01:17:05,050
here is another thing that was one of

1412
01:17:13,830 --> 01:17:08,920
those chilling things that I've heard it

1413
01:17:18,780 --> 01:17:13,840
was if you have and algorithms and self

1414
01:17:22,080 --> 01:17:18,790
coding code their whole existence sort

1415
01:17:25,620 --> 01:17:22,090
of like viruses their their existence is

1416
01:17:28,950 --> 01:17:25,630
to exist so that means that you get code

1417
01:17:32,010 --> 01:17:28,960
in artificial intelligence that has

1418
01:17:35,370 --> 01:17:32,020
algorithms that keeps it making code and

1419
01:17:38,490 --> 01:17:35,380
he can make any code they want to keep

1420
01:17:43,020 --> 01:17:38,500
being an independent and in this case of

1421
01:17:47,130 --> 01:17:43,030
the s you are an autonomous AI well once

1422
01:17:49,220 --> 01:17:47,140
you start getting AI autonomously making

1423
01:17:52,710 --> 01:17:49,230
its own code for its own

1424
01:17:56,910 --> 01:17:52,720
self-preservation right where does it

1425
01:17:59,340 --> 01:17:56,920
deposit this is not like the if this is

1426
01:18:01,740 --> 01:17:59,350
not like something that is isolated on a

1427
01:18:04,020 --> 01:18:01,750
border we're talking about artificial

1428
01:18:07,350 --> 01:18:04,030
intelligence systems that are going to

1429
01:18:11,700 --> 01:18:07,360
be communicating around the entire world

1430
01:18:16,070 --> 01:18:11,710
and that means none of us no human is

1431
01:18:19,470 --> 01:18:16,080
going to know where the self activating

1432
01:18:23,490 --> 01:18:19,480
algorithms of the self coding code of AI

1433
01:18:26,190 --> 01:18:23,500
are depositing in god only knows how

1434
01:18:32,240 --> 01:18:26,200
many systems for backup

1435
01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:32,250
the ai's backup code for survival

1436
01:18:38,250 --> 01:18:35,530
there'll be one staff a i would be one

1437
01:18:40,580 --> 01:18:38,260
step ahead of us on every front

1438
01:18:43,530 --> 01:18:40,590
linda because that's what they do and

1439
01:18:45,990 --> 01:18:43,540
going back to this presentation that i

1440
01:18:51,200 --> 01:18:46,000
saw over the weekend another strange

1441
01:18:57,300 --> 01:18:51,210
comment which was why the concern about

1442
01:19:00,690 --> 01:18:57,310
AI wanting to take over and dominate the

1443
01:19:03,090 --> 01:19:00,700
world and and i thought wait a minute

1444
01:19:06,740 --> 01:19:03,100
you just said it's only what we put into

1445
01:19:08,660 --> 01:19:06,750
it the AI well what is a human every

1446
01:19:11,660 --> 01:19:08,670
civilization

1447
01:19:12,860 --> 01:19:11,670
you know megalo manic dictator they want

1448
01:19:15,770 --> 01:19:12,870
to take over the world

1449
01:19:18,919 --> 01:19:15,780
you know many books and novels in vain

1450
01:19:22,160 --> 01:19:18,929
have been written on the subject well if

1451
01:19:25,910 --> 01:19:22,170
we are the AI that we're creating and

1452
01:19:31,040 --> 01:19:25,920
the AI is us that's the first thing on a

1453
01:19:33,310 --> 01:19:31,050
eyes mind not the last its Jimmy when I

1454
01:19:37,189 --> 01:19:33,320
was referencing the Ronald Reagan

1455
01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:37,199
prescript if the ibanez are defined by

1456
01:19:42,380 --> 01:19:39,770
our own government as being a prime

1457
01:19:45,290 --> 01:19:42,390
intelligence that has created at least

1458
01:19:48,290 --> 01:19:45,300
two of the other floor on the list

1459
01:19:52,130 --> 01:19:48,300
beyond the evens we're in a universe

1460
01:19:55,510 --> 01:19:52,140
where AI or start with prime

1461
01:19:58,640 --> 01:19:55,520
intelligence makes AI and then the AI

1462
01:20:02,630 --> 01:19:58,650
becomes something that functions and

1463
01:20:04,930 --> 01:20:02,640
keeps making AI and where there's no end

1464
01:20:09,140 --> 01:20:04,940
to it and then the definition of life

1465
01:20:12,110 --> 01:20:09,150
becomes a completely different context

1466
01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:12,120
because we've been on a planet where we

1467
01:20:16,640 --> 01:20:14,730
have been told that we were the only

1468
01:20:19,729 --> 01:20:16,650
life in the universe and that's not true

1469
01:20:24,700 --> 01:20:19,739
and therefore if we are somebody's

1470
01:20:28,160 --> 01:20:24,710
Android then the proceeding types

1471
01:20:30,709 --> 01:20:28,170
denisa Vons and neanderthalensis they

1472
01:20:33,620 --> 01:20:30,719
had to have been also developed

1473
01:20:36,919 --> 01:20:33,630
genetically manipulated and it is going

1474
01:20:40,700 --> 01:20:36,929
on throughout the universe then what

1475
01:20:46,700 --> 01:20:40,710
about the likelihood that lots of what's

1476
01:20:49,550 --> 01:20:46,710
out there is AI and that the AI world is

1477
01:20:53,180 --> 01:20:49,560
going to make it in space much much

1478
01:20:56,390 --> 01:20:53,190
better and easier than human flesh and

1479
01:20:58,220 --> 01:20:56,400
blood because we are really fragile when

1480
01:21:02,209 --> 01:20:58,230
it comes to what we're up against in

1481
01:21:03,380 --> 01:21:02,219
space struggle and did you see speaking

1482
01:21:06,919 --> 01:21:03,390
of all of this

1483
01:21:08,840 --> 01:21:06,929
did you see the report last week that

1484
01:21:10,250 --> 01:21:08,850
was written I don't have the medical

1485
01:21:13,550 --> 01:21:10,260
journal in front of me that it was

1486
01:21:18,350 --> 01:21:13,560
published but 33 scientists authored

1487
01:21:24,040 --> 01:21:18,360
this report stating that octopus was

1488
01:21:31,670 --> 01:21:26,990
the first thing that popped into my head

1489
01:21:35,690 --> 01:21:31,680
was that brilliant incredible film the

1490
01:21:40,060 --> 01:21:35,700
arrival and I thought yes oh my gosh was

1491
01:21:46,030 --> 01:21:40,070
that the reason yes I made the tentacled

1492
01:21:49,520 --> 01:21:46,040
eerie strange creatures that the lovely

1493
01:21:53,780 --> 01:21:49,530
female scientist or a language expert

1494
01:21:55,970 --> 01:21:53,790
that she is the only one who interacted

1495
01:22:00,080 --> 01:21:55,980
with and began to understand how they

1496
01:22:03,800 --> 01:22:00,090
were communicating and then yes if the

1497
01:22:06,260 --> 01:22:03,810
octopi on the planet Earth are actually

1498
01:22:10,250 --> 01:22:06,270
transported here from someplace else

1499
01:22:13,250 --> 01:22:10,260
then comes this really really stunning

1500
01:22:15,170 --> 01:22:13,260
mind jerk when you think about the end

1501
01:22:17,450 --> 01:22:15,180
of the film if it was something like The

1502
01:22:20,300 --> 01:22:17,460
Day the Earth Stood Still a CIA script

1503
01:22:25,310 --> 01:22:20,310
put in Hollywood to test audience

1504
01:22:28,040 --> 01:22:25,320
reaction that at the end that the will

1505
01:22:29,930 --> 01:22:28,050
call them tentacled tentacled creatures

1506
01:22:33,230 --> 01:22:29,940
because you only saw them in bits and

1507
01:22:37,540 --> 01:22:33,240
pieces and her illustrations right that

1508
01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:37,550
the tentacled entities they were

1509
01:22:47,240 --> 01:22:41,610
time-traveling they they were actually

1510
01:22:49,790 --> 01:22:47,250
going back in time in order to avert or

1511
01:22:52,670 --> 01:22:49,800
get help for something that would happen

1512
01:22:56,690 --> 01:22:52,680
I think it was a thousand years in the

1513
01:23:00,470 --> 01:22:56,700
future and that I and that they they

1514
01:23:04,000 --> 01:23:00,480
were not here to hurt anybody they were

1515
01:23:07,280 --> 01:23:04,010
here because they were trying to survive

1516
01:23:09,530 --> 01:23:07,290
themselves Rita and I when we walked out

1517
01:23:11,120 --> 01:23:09,540
of the theater I turned to her and we

1518
01:23:13,490 --> 01:23:11,130
were silent I turned to her I said so

1519
01:23:18,470 --> 01:23:13,500
what do you think she goes somebody is

1520
01:23:21,050 --> 01:23:18,480
sending us a message right there I that

1521
01:23:24,290 --> 01:23:21,060
movie was so good and profound I went

1522
01:23:27,050 --> 01:23:24,300
and saw it three times and each time I

1523
01:23:30,050 --> 01:23:27,060
saw something more I really do think it

1524
01:23:33,620 --> 01:23:30,060
was an extraordinary script it stuck out

1525
01:23:36,380 --> 01:23:33,630
to me as this is more than just a

1526
01:23:39,680 --> 01:23:36,390
Hollywood film and that's why when

1527
01:23:42,170 --> 01:23:39,690
I saw that headline about the scientists

1528
01:23:44,450 --> 01:23:42,180
saying that octopi were something from

1529
01:23:47,810 --> 01:23:44,460
someplace else and giving the reasons

1530
01:23:50,960 --> 01:23:47,820
why genetically it that movie just

1531
01:23:53,630 --> 01:23:50,970
jumped full and center I have no proof

1532
01:23:56,960 --> 01:23:53,640
but that is exactly what I thought of

1533
01:24:00,170 --> 01:23:56,970
and it will be interesting to see what

1534
01:24:02,780 --> 01:24:00,180
more all of us can learn about the

1535
01:24:06,830 --> 01:24:02,790
reasons that the science scientists are

1536
01:24:09,560 --> 01:24:06,840
giving genetically to back up their

1537
01:24:15,010 --> 01:24:09,570
argument and here is another whole huge

1538
01:24:19,250 --> 01:24:15,020
conundrum that all of us face science is

1539
01:24:23,630 --> 01:24:19,260
outstripping everybody's ability to keep

1540
01:24:27,320 --> 01:24:23,640
up if you are an astrophysicist and you

1541
01:24:30,050 --> 01:24:27,330
are focused in one specific part of a

1542
01:24:32,810 --> 01:24:30,060
thousand possible aspects of

1543
01:24:35,860 --> 01:24:32,820
astrophysics you can become an expert

1544
01:24:38,720 --> 01:24:35,870
but you won't be a renaissance mind on

1545
01:24:43,040 --> 01:24:38,730
everything because there's too much and

1546
01:24:46,910 --> 01:24:43,050
it's too too difficult molecular biology

1547
01:24:48,950 --> 01:24:46,920
genetics these are subjects I wish we

1548
01:24:53,390 --> 01:24:48,960
could put our pipes everybody a pipe

1549
01:24:57,470 --> 01:24:53,400
between our mind and PhD and so that we

1550
01:24:59,860 --> 01:24:57,480
had a more educated population about the

1551
01:25:03,470 --> 01:24:59,870
subjects that are now going to be

1552
01:25:06,500 --> 01:25:03,480
increasingly the relevant they're going

1553
01:25:08,420 --> 01:25:06,510
to be what we have to understand in

1554
01:25:11,150 --> 01:25:08,430
order to understand the planet that

1555
01:25:14,420 --> 01:25:11,160
we're evolving in and it is a big

1556
01:25:17,870 --> 01:25:14,430
disconnect now between those who have

1557
01:25:20,030 --> 01:25:17,880
knowledge at PhD level and the rest of

1558
01:25:21,650 --> 01:25:20,040
the planet on subjects that are we going

1559
01:25:23,960 --> 01:25:21,660
to become more and more and more

1560
01:25:26,720 --> 01:25:23,970
important we're going to head towards a

1561
01:25:30,260 --> 01:25:26,730
break here but before we get there I did

1562
01:25:32,750 --> 01:25:30,270
want to ask you this and we'll see if I

1563
01:25:35,420 --> 01:25:32,760
can get you to answer this quickly the

1564
01:25:37,550 --> 01:25:35,430
old UFO hypothesis and the way that we

1565
01:25:39,440 --> 01:25:37,560
looked at the nuts-and-bolts craft and

1566
01:25:40,580 --> 01:25:39,450
and trying to figure out how they got

1567
01:25:43,640 --> 01:25:40,590
here and that they were you know

1568
01:25:46,400 --> 01:25:43,650
traveling from whatever these vast

1569
01:25:49,470 --> 01:25:46,410
distances in craft and where we are

1570
01:25:54,610 --> 01:25:49,480
today in our understanding of trash

1571
01:25:56,740 --> 01:25:54,620
has evolved so much how do you think how

1572
01:26:00,400 --> 01:25:56,750
do you think they are getting here is it

1573
01:26:05,200 --> 01:26:00,410
is it bending space is it is it time

1574
01:26:08,080 --> 01:26:05,210
travel is it wormholes interdimensional

1575
01:26:11,440 --> 01:26:08,090
are they already here I mean where do

1576
01:26:14,710 --> 01:26:11,450
you stand today on that Linda all of the

1577
01:26:17,970 --> 01:26:14,720
buzz yeah everything you just said I

1578
01:26:20,800 --> 01:26:17,980
really do think that is true and

1579
01:26:22,720 --> 01:26:20,810
depending upon what time we have maybe I

1580
01:26:25,690 --> 01:26:22,730
can tell you this after the break

1581
01:26:29,170 --> 01:26:25,700
sure about an amazing conversation that

1582
01:26:31,480 --> 01:26:29,180
I had with a man who was working on ring

1583
01:26:35,350 --> 01:26:31,490
lasers both at MIT and wright-patterson

1584
01:26:37,690 --> 01:26:35,360
oh Linda I want you I want your connects

1585
01:26:39,400 --> 01:26:37,700
you just got me all freaked out that's

1586
01:26:41,260 --> 01:26:39,410
it let's go ahead and take our break so

1587
01:26:44,350 --> 01:26:41,270
we can do this when we get back our

1588
01:26:45,190 --> 01:26:44,360
guest tonight Linda Moulton Howe this is

1589
01:26:47,110 --> 01:26:45,200
fade to black

1590
01:26:49,360 --> 01:26:47,120
I'm used to meet church again follow me

1591
01:26:51,610 --> 01:26:49,370
on Twitter at church radio and you can

1592
01:26:54,240 --> 01:26:51,620
follow Linda at earthfiles we'll see in

1593
01:26:58,780 --> 01:26:54,250
a second Linda yeah

1594
01:27:14,310 --> 01:27:04,520
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01:27:20,550 --> 01:27:17,490
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01:27:23,050 --> 01:27:20,560
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01:30:07,700 --> 01:30:05,639
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listening to Jimmy Church this is a

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[Music]

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01:31:04,410 --> 01:31:00,990
welcome back fade to black did you guys

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01:31:07,200 --> 01:31:04,420
like that painting held that up for the

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01:31:08,760 --> 01:31:07,210
camera that was Doug Taylor and gave

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01:31:13,140 --> 01:31:08,770
that to me this weekend very cool

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01:31:15,630 --> 01:31:13,150
gobekli tepe and he got me he painted me

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01:31:17,700 --> 01:31:15,640
into the pic it's pretty cool yeah at

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Linda I haven't been to gobekli tepe but

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01:31:23,910 --> 01:31:20,020
Doug Taylor you know Doug he did this

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01:31:26,610 --> 01:31:23,920
beautiful painting and and he knows my

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01:31:29,760 --> 01:31:26,620
love for gobekli tepe

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and so he painted me into the pic just

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like that cool it's as close as I'm

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01:31:34,770 --> 01:31:33,400
gonna get right now but it's an amazing

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01:31:37,980 --> 01:31:34,780
piece of art I just held it up for the

1676
01:31:40,020 --> 01:31:37,990
camera yeah I wasn't there but the

1677
01:31:42,450 --> 01:31:40,030
painting is so good it looks like I

1678
01:31:45,930 --> 01:31:42,460
don't want people to think I was just in

1679
01:31:48,330 --> 01:31:45,940
a in Turkey I was not Linda

1680
01:31:49,890 --> 01:31:48,340
ring lasers and see you bring up

1681
01:31:53,190 --> 01:31:49,900
something like this we're talking about

1682
01:31:55,320 --> 01:31:53,200
you know systems and propulsion or how

1683
01:31:57,570 --> 01:31:55,330
they're doing it and how the traveling

1684
01:32:00,720 --> 01:31:57,580
you know et is making it here through

1685
01:32:02,550 --> 01:32:00,730
these vast distances nothing is close no

1686
01:32:05,670 --> 01:32:02,560
Alpha Centauri is still four and a half

1687
01:32:08,790 --> 01:32:05,680
light-years away as close as that may be

1688
01:32:10,530 --> 01:32:08,800
to us is the closest star system but

1689
01:32:13,890 --> 01:32:10,540
it's still important to have light years

1690
01:32:16,110 --> 01:32:13,900
is a long ways and you bring up ring

1691
01:32:20,130 --> 01:32:16,120
lasers I'm really interested in this

1692
01:32:24,030 --> 01:32:20,140
what did you find out yes we could move

1693
01:32:28,950 --> 01:32:24,040
point to point with resonant frequencies

1694
01:32:31,320 --> 01:32:28,960
or space tunnels we we could walk

1695
01:32:34,740 --> 01:32:31,330
through a door I mean literally you

1696
01:32:39,240 --> 01:32:34,750
would be on one side of a threshold this

1697
01:32:42,410 --> 01:32:39,250
earth in this time and you would be able

1698
01:32:44,940 --> 01:32:42,420
to program a whole different

1699
01:32:48,390 --> 01:32:44,950
latitude/longitude time and resonance

1700
01:32:50,760 --> 01:32:48,400
and then you would run it and then you

1701
01:32:53,400 --> 01:32:50,770
would just step across the threshold and

1702
01:32:56,250 --> 01:32:53,410
you would be three billion light years

1703
01:32:58,770 --> 01:32:56,260
away checking out whether or not those

1704
01:33:02,390 --> 01:32:58,780
fast radio bursts were light speed

1705
01:33:05,400 --> 01:33:02,400
transport for example and all of this

1706
01:33:08,250 --> 01:33:05,410
was laid out to me one of the more

1707
01:33:10,510 --> 01:33:08,260
interesting discussions that I've had

1708
01:33:14,290 --> 01:33:10,520
with somebody who came from both

1709
01:33:16,780 --> 01:33:14,300
science and military background and it

1710
01:33:19,210 --> 01:33:16,790
started I was this is when I was

1711
01:33:22,420 --> 01:33:19,220
director of special projects at the CBS

1712
01:33:24,490 --> 01:33:22,430
station in Denver and I had done a

1713
01:33:28,270 --> 01:33:24,500
strange harvest about the animal

1714
01:33:30,160 --> 01:33:28,280
mutilations and was working this was

1715
01:33:33,190 --> 01:33:30,170
like two years later and I was working

1716
01:33:36,370 --> 01:33:33,200
on a film about astronaut training in

1717
01:33:41,080 --> 01:33:36,380
Colorado at Martin Marietta outside of

1718
01:33:43,780 --> 01:33:41,090
Denver and I wanted to get the crew and

1719
01:33:47,050 --> 01:33:43,790
myself into what would look like a

1720
01:33:49,930 --> 01:33:47,060
really modern beautiful place they were

1721
01:33:53,920 --> 01:33:49,940
making aspects that related to astronaut

1722
01:33:57,310 --> 01:33:53,930
training satellites and all of that so I

1723
01:34:00,130 --> 01:33:57,320
had called up as a manager in the CBS TV

1724
01:34:04,150 --> 01:34:00,140
station working on a documentary and I

1725
01:34:07,830 --> 01:34:04,160
had talked with Bell Labs that ball lab

1726
01:34:10,210 --> 01:34:07,840
sorry that were outside of Boulder and

1727
01:34:13,630 --> 01:34:10,220
said that I wanted to come and take a

1728
01:34:15,550 --> 01:34:13,640
look at their various labs and find a

1729
01:34:19,150 --> 01:34:15,560
place where the crew and I could work

1730
01:34:22,030 --> 01:34:19,160
and they were very cooperative and I

1731
01:34:26,260 --> 01:34:22,040
went so I'm not with a crew I'm on

1732
01:34:28,630 --> 01:34:26,270
what's called a location scout and I am

1733
01:34:32,740 --> 01:34:28,640
though sawing with group they were about

1734
01:34:36,670 --> 01:34:32,750
six men myself and each man was there

1735
01:34:38,950 --> 01:34:36,680
for various other reasons and we were

1736
01:34:41,740 --> 01:34:38,960
taken around in a clutch because it was

1737
01:34:43,960 --> 01:34:41,750
a highly classified place and I was not

1738
01:34:46,660 --> 01:34:43,970
interested in doing anything that would

1739
01:34:51,700 --> 01:34:46,670
have to do with class being classified

1740
01:34:54,460 --> 01:34:51,710
but I wanted to work in clean lab that

1741
01:34:56,970 --> 01:34:54,470
would fit in my film and so I would have

1742
01:35:01,630 --> 01:34:56,980
to go around with people who they were

1743
01:35:05,380 --> 01:35:01,640
taking with some orientation and that's

1744
01:35:11,050 --> 01:35:05,390
where I see a badge hanging on a man's

1745
01:35:13,870 --> 01:35:11,060
jacket and it says ring laser physicist

1746
01:35:14,470 --> 01:35:13,880
and it said wright-patterson Air Force

1747
01:35:19,930 --> 01:35:14,480
Base

1748
01:35:22,120 --> 01:35:19,940
hmm no I kept thinking and we were

1749
01:35:23,859 --> 01:35:22,130
listening to the people guiding us

1750
01:35:26,979 --> 01:35:23,869
around to the different rooms and

1751
01:35:31,000 --> 01:35:26,989
and we got to a point where we were

1752
01:35:34,810 --> 01:35:31,010
asked to just hang out in a place while

1753
01:35:38,950 --> 01:35:34,820
the person who was orienting us had to

1754
01:35:41,680 --> 01:35:38,960
go and check with somebody so I said sir

1755
01:35:44,919 --> 01:35:41,690
I'm from the CBS station

1756
01:35:49,270 --> 01:35:44,929
I do documentaries and I couldn't help

1757
01:35:50,919 --> 01:35:49,280
but notice your badge and I just

1758
01:35:54,189 --> 01:35:50,929
wondered since you work at

1759
01:35:58,180 --> 01:35:54,199
wright-patterson have you ever heard

1760
01:36:02,080 --> 01:35:58,190
about UFOs and ETS I asked that question

1761
01:36:04,959 --> 01:36:02,090
and he could have walked away or sneer

1762
01:36:07,540 --> 01:36:04,969
or whatever but I felt that it was

1763
01:36:09,820 --> 01:36:07,550
legitimate because I would explain to

1764
01:36:12,609 --> 01:36:09,830
him that I was asking because I had done

1765
01:36:14,830 --> 01:36:12,619
a strange harvest and I won an Emmy so I

1766
01:36:19,209 --> 01:36:14,840
I had that in the back of my head ready

1767
01:36:26,890 --> 01:36:19,219
to bring out if he gave me criticism

1768
01:36:29,770 --> 01:36:26,900
instead he said immediately if you're

1769
01:36:32,979 --> 01:36:29,780
interested in that subject yes I can

1770
01:36:36,879 --> 01:36:32,989
share some information but not here not

1771
01:36:39,879 --> 01:36:36,889
here I'll have to call you so that night

1772
01:36:42,879 --> 01:36:39,889
I live down in Littleton and that he was

1773
01:36:46,330 --> 01:36:42,889
up in Boulder but sure enough in the

1774
01:36:49,870 --> 01:36:46,340
evening he called how do you how do you

1775
01:36:55,540 --> 01:36:49,880
pull this stuff off well I don't get

1776
01:36:59,320 --> 01:36:55,550
that phone call it is I think people

1777
01:37:02,830 --> 01:36:59,330
know I am honestly trying to understand

1778
01:37:06,339 --> 01:37:02,840
I don't really have much of any other

1779
01:37:09,640 --> 01:37:06,349
agenda except to try to understand what

1780
01:37:11,919 --> 01:37:09,650
the truth is and report it and that if

1781
01:37:16,270 --> 01:37:11,929
people are willing to talk with me on or

1782
01:37:19,570 --> 01:37:16,280
off the record if it's off the record I

1783
01:37:22,180 --> 01:37:19,580
learn a lot that gives me context if

1784
01:37:23,979 --> 01:37:22,190
it's on the record then I'll do it as an

1785
01:37:26,859 --> 01:37:23,989
interview and the off-the-record

1786
01:37:30,100 --> 01:37:26,869
information that comes in this category

1787
01:37:33,839 --> 01:37:30,110
he would be like a Hoover war is very

1788
01:37:37,660 --> 01:37:33,849
helpful and what was interesting to me

1789
01:37:41,320 --> 01:37:37,670
my question to him provoked

1790
01:37:45,490 --> 01:37:41,330
to him because some of these people they

1791
01:37:48,220 --> 01:37:45,500
don't they'd never get to talk about any

1792
01:37:50,860 --> 01:37:48,230
of this right and he just decided that

1793
01:37:53,140 --> 01:37:50,870
if I was working at a TV station and I

1794
01:37:56,590 --> 01:37:53,150
was working in this subject matter that

1795
01:37:59,020 --> 01:37:56,600
he would talk with me and to boil down

1796
01:38:06,040 --> 01:37:59,030
about a two and a half three hour

1797
01:38:08,830 --> 01:38:06,050
discussion he said that he knew another

1798
01:38:12,280 --> 01:38:08,840
physicist knew that we were in a

1799
01:38:17,350 --> 01:38:12,290
universe where other intelligences moved

1800
01:38:20,020 --> 01:38:17,360
point to point and he used as what now

1801
01:38:24,040 --> 01:38:20,030
has become a common metaphor where if

1802
01:38:26,500 --> 01:38:24,050
you had I think of a napkin and you pick

1803
01:38:30,130 --> 01:38:26,510
up one point of the napkin and you fold

1804
01:38:32,350 --> 01:38:30,140
it you're folding space-time in between

1805
01:38:34,959 --> 01:38:32,360
and you're making two points of the

1806
01:38:38,620 --> 01:38:34,969
napkin come together and that is used

1807
01:38:41,350 --> 01:38:38,630
quite often as a metaphor and there are

1808
01:38:43,900 --> 01:38:41,360
other things there are space tunnels is

1809
01:38:49,930 --> 01:38:43,910
the way it's described may or may not

1810
01:38:53,410 --> 01:38:49,940
fit into the world of wormholes but he

1811
01:38:56,729 --> 01:38:53,420
went into this with first first hand

1812
01:39:02,020 --> 01:38:56,739
physicist knowledge about this concept

1813
01:39:04,900 --> 01:39:02,030
later on about six months later he was

1814
01:39:06,700 --> 01:39:04,910
back in Boulder he was at some kind of a

1815
01:39:10,479 --> 01:39:06,710
scientific meeting and he called and he

1816
01:39:12,280 --> 01:39:10,489
said you know it's really important this

1817
01:39:14,260 --> 01:39:12,290
is really important that I be able to

1818
01:39:16,930 --> 01:39:14,270
talk to you face-to-face I cannot talk

1819
01:39:19,000 --> 01:39:16,940
to you on the phone so I drove to

1820
01:39:23,470 --> 01:39:19,010
Boulder from Denver's about thirty

1821
01:39:26,560 --> 01:39:23,480
minutes and we met on the University of

1822
01:39:28,930 --> 01:39:26,570
Colorado campus and we were in a place

1823
01:39:31,060 --> 01:39:28,940
that would be look just like we were

1824
01:39:35,410 --> 01:39:31,070
just people there on the campus having

1825
01:39:39,630 --> 01:39:35,420
lunch he said I want you to know that

1826
01:39:44,010 --> 01:39:39,640
you are in great danger and I said well

1827
01:39:47,290 --> 01:39:44,020
yeah I I suspect that a lot in my life

1828
01:39:48,430 --> 01:39:47,300
I'm not dealing with easy subjects but

1829
01:39:50,940 --> 01:39:48,440
why do you say that

1830
01:39:56,000 --> 01:39:50,950
and he said

1831
01:40:02,340 --> 01:39:56,010
since I talked with you on the phone and

1832
01:40:06,080 --> 01:40:02,350
went back to my lab and he said totally

1833
01:40:09,330 --> 01:40:06,090
unrelated but what happened has been

1834
01:40:14,010 --> 01:40:09,340
concerning to me that I at least be able

1835
01:40:16,560 --> 01:40:14,020
to tell you he said not long after that

1836
01:40:20,670 --> 01:40:16,570
phone conversation and that ball

1837
01:40:26,520 --> 01:40:20,680
aerospace tour he said I had put in a

1838
01:40:29,820 --> 01:40:26,530
request for all of Nikola Tesla's

1839
01:40:32,010 --> 01:40:29,830
patents including the ones that

1840
01:40:34,980 --> 01:40:32,020
disappeared after he died in New York

1841
01:40:38,970 --> 01:40:34,990
City and he said it'd be very very

1842
01:40:42,630 --> 01:40:38,980
important to my work in ring lasers and

1843
01:40:45,240 --> 01:40:42,640
he said it had gone my request and he

1844
01:40:48,930 --> 01:40:45,250
said my classification and my work I

1845
01:40:53,640 --> 01:40:48,940
should be able to put in a request for

1846
01:40:58,650 --> 01:40:53,650
any patent anywhere and get it he said

1847
01:41:04,520 --> 01:40:58,660
the very next morning in his lab which

1848
01:41:08,670 --> 01:41:04,530
was so classified that no one except him

1849
01:41:11,390 --> 01:41:08,680
could just walk into that lab everybody

1850
01:41:14,970 --> 01:41:11,400
else would have to go through security

1851
01:41:18,120 --> 01:41:14,980
phone calls he would be notified of

1852
01:41:22,320 --> 01:41:18,130
anybody whom is coming from the outside

1853
01:41:24,720 --> 01:41:22,330
world into his labs and yet the next

1854
01:41:26,790 --> 01:41:24,730
morning after putting in and submitting

1855
01:41:32,180 --> 01:41:26,800
the request for the patents from Nikola

1856
01:41:38,270 --> 01:41:32,190
Tesla two men in a proverbial black suit

1857
01:41:42,630 --> 01:41:38,280
white shirt black ties short black hair

1858
01:41:46,650 --> 01:41:42,640
opened up the door to his lab and come

1859
01:41:49,080 --> 01:41:46,660
in as if they owned the place he was so

1860
01:41:52,440 --> 01:41:49,090
shocked who are you

1861
01:41:57,210 --> 01:41:52,450
the memory said who are you they didn't

1862
01:42:02,940 --> 01:41:57,220
show him anything they just said we are

1863
01:42:04,920 --> 01:42:02,950
here to inform you that your request for

1864
01:42:09,270 --> 01:42:04,930
Nikola Tesla's patent

1865
01:42:13,380 --> 01:42:09,280
is denied that you are never to put in a

1866
01:42:17,000 --> 01:42:13,390
request for them again and we're here to

1867
01:42:20,130 --> 01:42:17,010
remind you that if you want your

1868
01:42:24,030 --> 01:42:20,140
laboratory to continue with the federal

1869
01:42:28,110 --> 01:42:24,040
funding that you have you will stop any

1870
01:42:30,630 --> 01:42:28,120
and all inquiries with anyone about and

1871
01:42:33,300 --> 01:42:30,640
then they use some term that he

1872
01:42:36,350 --> 01:42:33,310
interpreted as that his phone have been

1873
01:42:39,630 --> 01:42:36,360
tapped and I had been tapped and our

1874
01:42:45,120 --> 01:42:39,640
discussion had been was being referenced

1875
01:42:47,820 --> 01:42:45,130
and he said when you're in my position

1876
01:42:51,210 --> 01:42:47,830
and you're doing the work that you're

1877
01:42:54,210 --> 01:42:51,220
doing and people have the ability to

1878
01:42:58,140 --> 01:42:54,220
come into your lab without even

1879
01:43:02,670 --> 01:42:58,150
explaining who they work for you said I

1880
01:43:05,940 --> 01:43:02,680
know that what I do and what you do that

1881
01:43:08,640 --> 01:43:05,950
there are dangerous consequences and he

1882
01:43:10,830 --> 01:43:08,650
said and I wanted you to know that well

1883
01:43:13,620 --> 01:43:10,840
what it did to me it didn't scare me

1884
01:43:20,820 --> 01:43:13,630
it may be even more interested in the

1885
01:43:25,080 --> 01:43:20,830
work of Nikola Tesla that's right I've

1886
01:43:28,650 --> 01:43:25,090
never asked you this hey there's always

1887
01:43:33,680 --> 01:43:28,660
the first time question have you ever

1888
01:43:37,200 --> 01:43:33,690
had an encounter with the men in black

1889
01:43:40,590 --> 01:43:37,210
not a man named not men in black but I

1890
01:43:45,150 --> 01:43:40,600
certainly have had threats from a

1891
01:43:48,180 --> 01:43:45,160
variety of various people and I think

1892
01:43:51,230 --> 01:43:48,190
the biggest the thing that really annoys

1893
01:43:55,590 --> 01:43:51,240
me is that I will have spent a lot of

1894
01:43:58,110 --> 01:43:55,600
time and sometimes money and travel to

1895
01:44:01,020 --> 01:43:58,120
set up conditions where I can do a

1896
01:44:04,650 --> 01:44:01,030
recording in which I am totally willing

1897
01:44:07,170 --> 01:44:04,660
to alter a voice and I have done that

1898
01:44:10,920 --> 01:44:07,180
I've done that even in my interviews and

1899
01:44:18,089 --> 01:44:10,930
I'm coast to coast and protect always

1900
01:44:20,970 --> 01:44:18,099
protect the source and I will be having

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01:44:24,750 --> 01:44:20,980
the folks see this is the Achilles heel

1902
01:44:26,069 --> 01:44:24,760
of the American journalist who is

1903
01:44:29,819 --> 01:44:26,079
supposed to be protected by a

1904
01:44:30,569 --> 01:44:29,829
Constitution and I'm not doing anything

1905
01:44:33,689 --> 01:44:30,579
wrong

1906
01:44:38,609 --> 01:44:33,699
but my phone has been tapped ever since

1907
01:44:44,339 --> 01:44:38,619
I did a strange harvest and I have to

1908
01:44:47,040 --> 01:44:44,349
compartmentalize and and not feel some

1909
01:44:51,089 --> 01:44:47,050
kind of fear or anxiety and I do that to

1910
01:44:53,720 --> 01:44:51,099
be well but when I think that I've done

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01:44:57,149 --> 01:44:53,730
everything responsibly and correctly

1912
01:45:00,270 --> 01:44:57,159
incredibly and I have dd-214 and

1913
01:45:02,550 --> 01:45:00,280
military and a person is willing to talk

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01:45:04,979 --> 01:45:02,560
and I will alter their voice and I will

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01:45:09,479 --> 01:45:04,989
protect them just to get the information

1916
01:45:12,479 --> 01:45:09,489
out and the next thing that happens is a

1917
01:45:15,300 --> 01:45:12,489
communication I am so sorry Linda I

1918
01:45:17,490 --> 01:45:15,310
really want to do this but I have a

1919
01:45:21,089 --> 01:45:17,500
family and men showed up at my front

1920
01:45:27,689 --> 01:45:21,099
door and they told me and it's always a

1921
01:45:30,870 --> 01:45:27,699
variation on as one the CIA guy that I

1922
01:45:31,859 --> 01:45:30,880
did the whole 20 part series at Birth

1923
01:45:35,700 --> 01:45:31,869
files.com

1924
01:45:39,839 --> 01:45:35,710
that I called Cooper has also referred

1925
01:45:42,060 --> 01:45:39,849
to as anonymous that was a 1998 long

1926
01:45:45,750 --> 01:45:42,070
three-day interview at his home that I

1927
01:45:48,439 --> 01:45:45,760
did and then right after I left two men

1928
01:45:50,970 --> 01:45:48,449
in black showed up in the supermarket

1929
01:45:54,750 --> 01:45:50,980
where he and his wife had gone to get

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01:45:59,040 --> 01:45:54,760
some some groceries and when he walked

1931
01:46:02,399 --> 01:45:59,050
to the car these two men had their backs

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01:46:07,939 --> 01:46:02,409
against the driver's window which was

1933
01:46:09,689 --> 01:46:07,949
like like pecking order authority right

1934
01:46:12,450 --> 01:46:09,699
elbows crossed

1935
01:46:15,990 --> 01:46:12,460
not moving as he walked up told his wife

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01:46:19,200 --> 01:46:16,000
to hold back with a grocery cart and he

1937
01:46:22,439 --> 01:46:19,210
was a very sick man very having to take

1938
01:46:25,020 --> 01:46:22,449
insulin shots every four hours during

1939
01:46:27,720 --> 01:46:25,030
that long weekend that I was doing the

1940
01:46:30,660 --> 01:46:27,730
recorded interviews with his permission

1941
01:46:31,859 --> 01:46:30,670
and his request he wanted to get this on

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01:46:35,520 --> 01:46:31,869
the record

1943
01:46:37,530 --> 01:46:35,530
so he's very ill but he had gone grocery

1944
01:46:39,240 --> 01:46:37,540
shopping and he realized when he saw

1945
01:46:42,600 --> 01:46:39,250
those men with her back against the

1946
01:46:44,370 --> 01:46:42,610
driver side of the car that he asked his

1947
01:46:48,959 --> 01:46:44,380
wife to hold off and he walked up to

1948
01:46:52,919 --> 01:46:48,969
them and they said we are here to remind

1949
01:46:56,910 --> 01:46:52,929
you that we expect you to be a loyal

1950
01:47:01,830 --> 01:46:56,920
American patriot he had worked for the

1951
01:47:06,120 --> 01:47:01,840
CIA and his cover was in army Intel and

1952
01:47:09,959 --> 01:47:06,130
you are never to talk with Linda Moulton

1953
01:47:12,390 --> 01:47:09,969
Howe again if you want to see your son

1954
01:47:16,770 --> 01:47:12,400
marry and have children Wow

1955
01:47:19,229 --> 01:47:16,780
and those are the kinds of things that I

1956
01:47:21,570 --> 01:47:19,239
don't think should ever happen in the

1957
01:47:27,570 --> 01:47:21,580
United States of America but they have

1958
01:47:31,620 --> 01:47:27,580
happened dozens of times and there's a

1959
01:47:35,399 --> 01:47:31,630
part of me that feels very angry and

1960
01:47:39,479 --> 01:47:35,409
upset over what our country has become

1961
01:47:41,700 --> 01:47:39,489
over what over trying to keep the whole

1962
01:47:43,169 --> 01:47:41,710
world from knowing the truth that were

1963
01:47:46,109 --> 01:47:43,179
not alone in this universe

1964
01:47:49,169 --> 01:47:46,119
right there are other intelligences that

1965
01:47:51,510 --> 01:47:49,179
have been here on this planet not only

1966
01:47:55,410 --> 01:47:51,520
for thousands of years but according to

1967
01:48:00,839 --> 01:47:55,420
one di a whistleblower to me Linda we

1968
01:48:04,100 --> 01:48:00,849
have proof that three competing and in

1969
01:48:09,660 --> 01:48:04,110
conflict extraterrestrial biological

1970
01:48:12,359 --> 01:48:09,670
entities groups have been manipulating

1971
01:48:15,770 --> 01:48:12,369
and harvesting and terraforming this

1972
01:48:20,370 --> 01:48:15,780
planet for at least 270 million years

1973
01:48:23,459 --> 01:48:20,380
and when you only go to one life that we

1974
01:48:26,669 --> 01:48:23,469
put when you put everything we're

1975
01:48:32,339 --> 01:48:26,679
talking about from the current immediate

1976
01:48:36,330 --> 01:48:32,349
second of tonight on May 22nd 2018 in

1977
01:48:38,700 --> 01:48:36,340
the lens of looking back for 270 million

1978
01:48:41,609 --> 01:48:38,710
years that is before the time of the

1979
01:48:43,530 --> 01:48:41,619
dinosaurs and when I said sir that's

1980
01:48:45,219 --> 01:48:43,540
before the time of the dinosaurs he said

1981
01:48:48,180 --> 01:48:45,229
Linda we

1982
01:48:53,759 --> 01:48:48,190
proof that one of these competing

1983
01:48:57,359 --> 01:48:53,769
territorial groups the manipulated DNA

1984
01:49:02,109 --> 01:48:57,369
dinosaurs as an 80 million year long

1985
01:49:05,830 --> 01:49:02,119
experiment when when when the audience

1986
01:49:10,509 --> 01:49:05,840
hears you speak about this I need to

1987
01:49:14,350 --> 01:49:10,519
remind them about some of your

1988
01:49:16,330 --> 01:49:14,360
experiences in the past that you know

1989
01:49:17,589 --> 01:49:16,340
like Kirtland Air Force Base and what

1990
01:49:21,520 --> 01:49:17,599
you went through there and the whole

1991
01:49:25,779 --> 01:49:21,530
dodi period in HBO and and you know you

1992
01:49:28,449 --> 01:49:25,789
you were on curtly interfacing with the

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01:49:33,819 --> 01:49:28,459
air force about this subject and shown

1994
01:49:36,069 --> 01:49:33,829
documents this is not a joke you know

1995
01:49:41,459 --> 01:49:36,079
those are your life's experiences and

1996
01:49:44,919 --> 01:49:41,469
and people need to be reminded of your

1997
01:49:47,589 --> 01:49:44,929
integrity but also your tenacity and the

1998
01:49:49,569 --> 01:49:47,599
reasons why you are motivated to be the

1999
01:49:52,569 --> 01:49:49,579
journalist and researcher that you are

2000
01:49:54,759 --> 01:49:52,579
today and and I feel compelled to go

2001
01:49:57,699 --> 01:49:54,769
back and remind everybody to kind of put

2002
01:50:00,549 --> 01:49:57,709
it all back into focus you are very

2003
01:50:05,699 --> 01:50:00,559
driven and and you have your reasons for

2004
01:50:10,180 --> 01:50:05,709
that for truth we're supposed to be in a

2005
01:50:13,739 --> 01:50:10,190
Democrat or at least a republic and that

2006
01:50:17,770 --> 01:50:13,749
the First Amendment is supposed to

2007
01:50:21,819 --> 01:50:17,780
protect the Fourth Estate defined as a

2008
01:50:25,060 --> 01:50:21,829
free press and that was so important in

2009
01:50:27,520 --> 01:50:25,070
that divorce between the United Kingdom

2010
01:50:30,580 --> 01:50:27,530
and what was becoming the United States

2011
01:50:33,910 --> 01:50:30,590
a free press because of all the

2012
01:50:36,580 --> 01:50:33,920
oppression people forget why did the

2013
01:50:39,640 --> 01:50:36,590
United States where were these pilgrims

2014
01:50:44,080 --> 01:50:39,650
why they were leading what they said was

2015
01:50:48,580 --> 01:50:44,090
the suppression of them of the religion

2016
01:50:53,080 --> 01:50:48,590
of truth and that this country was to be

2017
01:50:58,340 --> 01:50:53,090
founded on a whole new principle of by

2018
01:51:02,720 --> 01:50:58,350
and for the people not a monarchy

2019
01:51:07,810 --> 01:51:02,730
not a kingdom but a government of by and

2020
01:51:14,870 --> 01:51:07,820
for the people and that those early

2021
01:51:18,920 --> 01:51:14,880
places that fought for that today I'm

2022
01:51:22,250 --> 01:51:18,930
going to I'll do this oppose this on the

2023
01:51:23,270 --> 01:51:22,260
air as a question to the listeners and

2024
01:51:30,020 --> 01:51:23,280
to you Jimmy

2025
01:51:36,890 --> 01:51:30,030
I think that the United States has

2026
01:51:39,920 --> 01:51:36,900
become a political science textbook of a

2027
01:51:42,680 --> 01:51:39,930
fascist nation in which the corporations

2028
01:51:46,520 --> 01:51:42,690
and the government departments are

2029
01:51:50,360 --> 01:51:46,530
joined at the hip we see that at every

2030
01:51:52,580 --> 01:51:50,370
level now you know and we really do it

2031
01:51:55,190 --> 01:51:52,590
and the marriage joined-at-the-hip right

2032
01:51:58,190 --> 01:51:55,200
the marriage is getting more and more

2033
01:52:01,340 --> 01:51:58,200
cemented every day and you know this

2034
01:52:03,500 --> 01:52:01,350
isn't a political show but I certainly

2035
01:52:05,120 --> 01:52:03,510
deal with the conspiracy of politics

2036
01:52:09,350 --> 01:52:05,130
right it's two different things

2037
01:52:12,470 --> 01:52:09,360
and and it's a fascinating thing for all

2038
01:52:15,710 --> 01:52:12,480
of us to witness in real time and

2039
01:52:20,450 --> 01:52:15,720
speaking of that I spoke to you about

2040
01:52:22,100 --> 01:52:20,460
this before but as you know Doty Richard

2041
01:52:23,870 --> 01:52:22,110
Doty called in to this show surprise

2042
01:52:26,180 --> 01:52:23,880
call a few months ago and I called you

2043
01:52:28,190 --> 01:52:26,190
immediately after that happened but he

2044
01:52:30,290 --> 01:52:28,200
said one thing I want your reaction to

2045
01:52:32,900 --> 01:52:30,300
this before the break he said one thing

2046
01:52:35,210 --> 01:52:32,910
on the show that freaked me out which

2047
01:52:37,700 --> 01:52:35,220
what well it all freaked me out first

2048
01:52:39,620 --> 01:52:37,710
off he's a disinfo guy what can you do

2049
01:52:42,230 --> 01:52:39,630
you know what is true and what is not

2050
01:52:45,050 --> 01:52:42,240
that's the first part but he said that

2051
01:52:51,650 --> 01:52:45,060
out there on the circuit today at

2052
01:52:55,610 --> 01:52:51,660
conferences there are two two operatives

2053
01:52:59,690 --> 01:52:55,620
two two agents that are that are out

2054
01:53:00,800 --> 01:52:59,700
there working right now and and that I

2055
01:53:05,030 --> 01:53:00,810
knew who they were

2056
01:53:08,240 --> 01:53:05,040
now I had do you do you trust Doty in

2057
01:53:11,870 --> 01:53:08,250
that statement no I don't trust any of

2058
01:53:12,230 --> 01:53:11,880
the counter-intel people most everything

2059
01:53:14,780 --> 01:53:12,240
that

2060
01:53:17,750 --> 01:53:14,790
they're doing is spreading a certain

2061
01:53:20,260 --> 01:53:17,760
kind of bias for people to think through

2062
01:53:26,330 --> 01:53:20,270
that's number one always remember that

2063
01:53:31,250 --> 01:53:26,340
and that number two is to test reactions

2064
01:53:31,610 --> 01:53:31,260
and the the whole thing about all of

2065
01:53:35,120 --> 01:53:31,620
this

2066
01:53:39,250 --> 01:53:35,130
it's the current wind when you go back

2067
01:53:42,320 --> 01:53:39,260
to April of 1983 I had signed the

2068
01:53:45,680 --> 01:53:42,330
contract in New York City was at the

2069
01:53:49,160 --> 01:53:45,690
home box office headquarters on March

2070
01:53:53,270 --> 01:53:49,170
21st 1983 I remember it because I love

2071
01:53:56,480 --> 01:53:53,280
the spring solstice and that was that

2072
01:53:59,690 --> 01:53:56,490
day and I was very excited about doing

2073
01:54:02,750 --> 01:53:59,700
an hour production at home box office

2074
01:54:05,120 --> 01:54:02,760
and our working title was UFOs the et

2075
01:54:11,380 --> 01:54:05,130
factor and for people who may not be

2076
01:54:14,420 --> 01:54:11,390
aware I have always Jimmy from 1968

2077
01:54:16,520 --> 01:54:14,430
graduating from Stanford University with

2078
01:54:19,310 --> 01:54:16,530
a master's degree in communication

2079
01:54:21,980 --> 01:54:19,320
having made documentary films for two

2080
01:54:25,760 --> 01:54:21,990
years and immediately went in to Los

2081
01:54:30,050 --> 01:54:25,770
Angeles media I was a first street

2082
01:54:34,490 --> 01:54:30,060
reporter on television at the KNBC in

2083
01:54:36,800 --> 01:54:34,500
Los Angeles and then I was asked to work

2084
01:54:41,210 --> 01:54:36,810
on documentaries there and then I was

2085
01:54:44,210 --> 01:54:41,220
asked to produce a live studio show I

2086
01:54:47,360 --> 01:54:44,220
was doing all kinds of things in Tom

2087
01:54:51,490 --> 01:54:47,370
Brokaw and Tom Snyder

2088
01:54:54,320 --> 01:54:51,500
they were there at that time and I was a

2089
01:54:57,770 --> 01:54:54,330
first a reporter and then a producer at

2090
01:55:01,610 --> 01:54:57,780
KNBC doing a live television in Johnny

2091
01:55:04,490 --> 01:55:01,620
Carson studio I would go running to make

2092
01:55:06,530 --> 01:55:04,500
sure that I would got my time that was

2093
01:55:10,250 --> 01:55:06,540
allocated in the studio that I was

2094
01:55:13,640 --> 01:55:10,260
assigned at NBC and I would run from my

2095
01:55:16,100 --> 01:55:13,650
fourth four-story office with my

2096
01:55:20,150 --> 01:55:16,110
stopwatch in my script in my briefcase

2097
01:55:22,520 --> 01:55:20,160
over to Johnny Carson's studio where I

2098
01:55:23,200 --> 01:55:22,530
would do a show in the afternoon and

2099
01:55:26,020 --> 01:55:23,210
then he

2100
01:55:29,080 --> 01:55:26,030
and his crew would come in in the late

2101
01:55:31,630 --> 01:55:29,090
afternoon and so I went right from

2102
01:55:34,450 --> 01:55:31,640
Stanford University into the biggest box

2103
01:55:38,620 --> 01:55:34,460
possible where I worked I went right

2104
01:55:43,950 --> 01:55:38,630
from school to working at KNBC and in

2105
01:55:47,860 --> 01:55:43,960
NBC Studios so my work in news in

2106
01:55:51,550 --> 01:55:47,870
documentary in life studio all of it was

2107
01:55:55,540 --> 01:55:51,560
right from Stanford and I was married

2108
01:55:57,580 --> 01:55:55,550
then and the move from Los Angeles and

2109
01:56:01,480 --> 01:55:57,590
KNBC where I could have stayed for a

2110
01:56:05,140 --> 01:56:01,490
long time was because my husband wanted

2111
01:56:07,740 --> 01:56:05,150
to go into cable and wanted to go to

2112
01:56:11,440 --> 01:56:07,750
Harvard to get an MBA he had done Yale

2113
01:56:14,830 --> 01:56:11,450
as an undergraduate we met as master's

2114
01:56:18,970 --> 01:56:14,840
degrees at Stanford and then he applied

2115
01:56:21,750 --> 01:56:18,980
and got a entrance to be get an MBA at

2116
01:56:25,330 --> 01:56:21,760
Harvard so we were at that active

2117
01:56:28,720 --> 01:56:25,340
formula kind of part of our lives that

2118
01:56:32,140 --> 01:56:28,730
but I still went from LA while he was at

2119
01:56:35,440 --> 01:56:32,150
Harvard and I was hired to produce all

2120
01:56:37,960 --> 01:56:35,450
the medical programming at WCVB in

2121
01:56:40,330 --> 01:56:37,970
Boston which I did for two years house

2122
01:56:43,030 --> 01:56:40,340
call with dr. Timothy Johnson he was the

2123
01:56:47,740 --> 01:56:43,040
ABC medical editor and it was like

2124
01:56:50,200 --> 01:56:47,750
getting a medical school degree I was in

2125
01:56:54,100 --> 01:56:50,210
and out of Mass General and Children's

2126
01:56:56,680 --> 01:56:54,110
Hospital and Harvard and all of the time

2127
01:56:59,320 --> 01:56:56,690
every week working with a crew no matter

2128
01:57:01,960 --> 01:56:59,330
what we were doing surgeries or other

2129
01:57:05,770 --> 01:57:01,970
things I did that for two years and

2130
01:57:06,910 --> 01:57:05,780
that's how my husband ended up working

2131
01:57:10,750 --> 01:57:06,920
for Time Inc

2132
01:57:12,460 --> 01:57:10,760
we moved from Boston to Denver he was

2133
01:57:14,680 --> 01:57:12,470
working for a corporation in New York

2134
01:57:17,470 --> 01:57:14,690
but their subsidiary having to do with

2135
01:57:19,690 --> 01:57:17,480
cable was in Denver at that time I was

2136
01:57:24,900 --> 01:57:19,700
hired to be director of special projects

2137
01:57:28,690 --> 01:57:24,910
at the CBS station where they were

2138
01:57:31,360 --> 01:57:28,700
purchasing the syndicated medical work

2139
01:57:34,780 --> 01:57:31,370
that I had done in Boston that was this

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01:57:37,089 --> 01:57:34,790
strange braiding and convergence between

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my life and ending up in Denver was

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01:57:43,629 --> 01:57:39,260
purchased the medical work I had been

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01:57:48,069 --> 01:57:43,639
doing in Boston and so that gives you I

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01:57:51,429 --> 01:57:48,079
have always been a mainstream journalist

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01:57:54,669 --> 01:57:51,439
trained in the same rules as the New

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01:58:00,790 --> 01:57:54,679
York Times NBC CBS and I've always

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worked in that context but when the as

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my career was going along and I was

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doing documentaries in life studio shows

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01:58:12,040 --> 01:58:08,809
like I had been doing in LA and doing it

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01:58:13,989 --> 01:58:12,050
in Denver and all of these animal

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01:58:16,839 --> 01:58:13,999
mutilation reports showed up in

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01:58:19,270 --> 01:58:16,849
headlines and I wanted to get to the

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01:58:21,790 --> 01:58:19,280
bottom of that just like I had wanted to

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01:58:23,979 --> 01:58:21,800
get to the bottom of any science

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01:58:28,209 --> 01:58:23,989
environment and medical story that I

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01:58:31,479 --> 01:58:28,219
worked on right little did I know that I

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01:58:36,339 --> 01:58:31,489
was entering a path that would define

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01:58:39,479 --> 01:58:36,349
the next 40 years of my life I had no

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01:58:42,310 --> 01:58:39,489
idea I thought I was going to be doing a

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01:58:44,439 --> 01:58:42,320
documentary that might have to do with

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01:58:47,409 --> 01:58:44,449
government contamination of something

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01:58:50,020 --> 01:58:47,419
that was killing these animals and for

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01:58:54,250 --> 01:58:50,030
some reason they had to get a tissue

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01:58:57,069 --> 01:58:54,260
from the animals and it was not more

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01:58:59,679 --> 01:58:57,079
than two weeks after deciding because I

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01:59:02,409 --> 01:58:59,689
was the manager of that department in

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01:59:04,569 --> 01:59:02,419
the station and I'm the one who chose my

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01:59:07,179 --> 01:59:04,579
subjects of what I was going to do and I

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01:59:12,009 --> 01:59:07,189
had a budget and a crew and all of that

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01:59:14,319 --> 01:59:12,019
that I managed and I had a an exposure

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01:59:15,849 --> 01:59:14,329
through the headlines and talking with

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01:59:18,699 --> 01:59:15,859
some other reporters about all these

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01:59:23,169 --> 01:59:18,709
animal mutilations and said I'm going to

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01:59:27,149 --> 01:59:23,179
get to the bottom of this and the first

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01:59:31,239 --> 01:59:27,159
person that I was advised to go talk to

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01:59:34,540 --> 01:59:31,249
was Sheriff Tex graves in Logan County

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up in Sterling Colorado and this is very

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important because I'm a manager in a TV

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01:59:45,310 --> 01:59:42,340
station I am producing all kinds of

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01:59:48,069 --> 01:59:45,320
environment science political I had done

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a live studio show with one of the CIA

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directors having to do

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intelligence operations I've done a

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01:59:59,480 --> 01:59:57,000
whole lot of different shows time that I

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jump in row I have to take a commercial

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break we're right at the top of the hour

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tell you about the sheriff's would he

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come back we'll do it all when we get

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back our guest tonight Linda Moulton

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all right welcome back fade to black

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our guest tonight Linda Moulton Howe she

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will be a contact in the desert next

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week tickets and info Oprah Jimmy turns

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little programming note I want to remind

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everybody tomorrow night George Noory is

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going to be here and Victoria from

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contacting the desert is going to be

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here we're gonna have a bunch of special

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guests come by and say hello so don't

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miss tomorrow night and Linda you know I

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02:05:15,690 --> 02:05:12,340
would have had you on tomorrow night but

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02:05:19,380 --> 02:05:15,700
I'm just being selfish I wanted you I I

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02:05:22,020 --> 02:05:19,390
do my own earthfiles youtube channel

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02:05:24,510 --> 02:05:22,030
broadcast which we've been doing for

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02:05:28,620 --> 02:05:24,520
about two and a half or three months and

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it is growing like wildfire and I just

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02:05:33,510 --> 02:05:30,430
love doing it and when I do it on

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02:05:37,830 --> 02:05:33,520
Wednesday night so cross pollinating

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from you for people it's before you come

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02:05:46,560 --> 02:05:41,280
on live yes I go on in 7:30 to about

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02:05:50,360 --> 02:05:46,570
8:15 and I am exploring sort of things

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02:05:55,200 --> 02:05:50,370
that are current on my mind or that I'm

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02:05:59,130 --> 02:05:55,210
investigating and talking live with an

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02:06:02,040 --> 02:05:59,140
audience that is growing greatly and

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02:06:05,460 --> 02:06:02,050
their questions are so intelligent and

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02:06:07,980 --> 02:06:05,470
it's like a live dialogue with a huge

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02:06:09,480 --> 02:06:07,990
swath of wonderful people every

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02:06:11,970 --> 02:06:09,490
Wednesday so that's what I'll be doing

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02:06:14,220 --> 02:06:11,980
tomorrow on the earthfiles youtube

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02:06:17,400 --> 02:06:14,230
channel but I'm glad we got to talk

2315
02:06:21,390 --> 02:06:17,410
tonight because I think this is the

2316
02:06:26,390 --> 02:06:21,400
first interview ever that I have gone

2317
02:06:29,760 --> 02:06:26,400
into some of my background at KNBC

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02:06:34,100 --> 02:06:29,770
Stanford in the sense that it all was

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weaving in a to be just forever a

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mainstream journalist and that that is

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02:06:43,260 --> 02:06:40,510
the context in which it was suggested

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02:06:46,110 --> 02:06:43,270
that I go and talk with sheriff Tex

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02:06:48,780 --> 02:06:46,120
graves up in Sterling Colorado right and

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02:06:51,150 --> 02:06:48,790
he was just retiring

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from the sheriff's office and would be

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02:06:56,850 --> 02:06:53,890
able to talk with me because he was

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retiring and I set up this meeting drove

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02:07:03,660 --> 02:06:58,810
up by myself

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he had transitioned after 23 years John

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Wayne type of that man a few words but

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boy did they count and you would not

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want to cross here at X grave Wow

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I really liked him no no guff no

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nonsense and he pulled out a box of

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02:07:31,020 --> 02:07:26,590
about 266 color Polaroids that he had

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02:07:33,360 --> 02:07:31,030
taken himself as sheriff and I think

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02:07:37,470 --> 02:07:33,370
that the earliest year on those

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Polaroids was somewhere around 1971 and

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02:07:46,710 --> 02:07:42,370
I'm visiting him in September of 1979 so

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he had about a decade and he let me yeah

2341
02:07:51,930 --> 02:07:48,760
I asked him I said I like to look at

2342
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things chronologically and so he let me

2343
02:07:58,440 --> 02:07:56,020
use the poor and as I went through

2344
02:08:03,270 --> 02:07:58,450
looking for the very first time this is

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02:08:06,300 --> 02:08:03,280
my very first day of interacting truth

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02:08:09,990 --> 02:08:06,310
photographs with the animal mutilation

2347
02:08:12,570 --> 02:08:10,000
and I was not looking at blood I was not

2348
02:08:15,980 --> 02:08:12,580
looking at fluid I was not looking at

2349
02:08:18,960 --> 02:08:15,990
track I was looking at something that my

2350
02:08:22,710 --> 02:08:18,970
logical left brain could not comprehend

2351
02:08:27,930 --> 02:08:22,720
what was that and as I began asking him

2352
02:08:32,520 --> 02:08:27,940
questions about it all how could a 1,700

2353
02:08:34,800 --> 02:08:32,530
pound animal be found on face powder

2354
02:08:36,390 --> 02:08:34,810
dust that was the case and a lot of

2355
02:08:38,790 --> 02:08:36,400
these it's just the ground there's no

2356
02:08:41,900 --> 02:08:38,800
not even grass it should dust and

2357
02:08:44,790 --> 02:08:41,910
there's no tracks around the animal

2358
02:08:47,490 --> 02:08:44,800
including the animals own tracks but in

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02:08:50,370 --> 02:08:47,500
Ihram is missing an eye is missing jaw

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02:08:53,490 --> 02:08:50,380
flesh tongue deep within the throat the

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02:08:55,470 --> 02:08:53,500
genitals are taken out like with a

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02:08:59,780 --> 02:08:55,480
cookie cutter as law enforcement said

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the rectum and or vagina are cored out a

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photo after photo

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and I was asking him questions as we go

2366
02:09:13,250 --> 02:09:10,539
and eventually he looked at me and he

2367
02:09:16,469 --> 02:09:13,260
said Linda let me save you some time

2368
02:09:22,790 --> 02:09:16,479
the perpetrators of these mutilations

2369
02:09:27,299 --> 02:09:22,800
are creatures from outer space and I

2370
02:09:30,359 --> 02:09:27,309
absolutely vividly recalling as I say

2371
02:09:33,089 --> 02:09:30,369
that I've never forgotten that it felt

2372
02:09:35,489 --> 02:09:33,099
just like I was touching the electric

2373
02:09:37,739 --> 02:09:35,499
wire that my dad had placed around the

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02:09:40,830 --> 02:09:37,749
garden when we were kids growing up to

2375
02:09:43,080 --> 02:09:40,840
keep the dogs out right and we my

2376
02:09:45,750 --> 02:09:43,090
brother and I would play with touching

2377
02:09:48,509 --> 02:09:45,760
that wire and feeling what electricity

2378
02:09:51,839 --> 02:09:48,519
felt like when it went through us and it

2379
02:09:54,629 --> 02:09:51,849
hurt and when sheriff Tech's grave said

2380
02:09:57,120 --> 02:09:54,639
those words I still can remember I can

2381
02:10:00,029 --> 02:09:57,130
see his eyes right now I can feel what I

2382
02:10:03,239 --> 02:10:00,039
felt and it felt like I had was touched

2383
02:10:06,180 --> 02:10:03,249
by one of those electric wires and dad's

2384
02:10:10,649 --> 02:10:06,190
garden as he said those words I wasn't

2385
02:10:15,930 --> 02:10:10,659
prepared for such a sentence and that

2386
02:10:19,620 --> 02:10:15,940
night driving home my entire existence I

2387
02:10:25,109 --> 02:10:19,630
would have been at that point in and I

2388
02:10:29,250 --> 02:10:25,119
was born in 1942 so I think I was 37

2389
02:10:31,259 --> 02:10:29,260
nice anchor I hadn't even thought about

2390
02:10:43,080 --> 02:10:31,269
that how old was I when I was doing that

2391
02:10:46,049 --> 02:10:43,090
I'm so 1979 37 and in my 37 years the

2392
02:10:49,459 --> 02:10:46,059
guy mom and dad said when I was 3 years

2393
02:10:54,120 --> 02:10:49,469
old I started asking for a telescope and

2394
02:10:56,930 --> 02:10:54,130
I had a aunt who who helped me with

2395
02:11:00,660 --> 02:10:56,940
getting a piano and my dad got me a

2396
02:11:04,399 --> 02:11:00,670
reflector telescope but I spent endless

2397
02:11:07,589 --> 02:11:04,409
nights in Boise Idaho with my telescope

2398
02:11:10,410 --> 02:11:07,599
it was like a passion and I thought I

2399
02:11:14,339 --> 02:11:10,420
would be an astronomer and all of that

2400
02:11:15,989 --> 02:11:14,349
is to say that the sky the night sky

2401
02:11:19,469 --> 02:11:15,999
being out under this

2402
02:11:19,889 --> 02:11:19,479
stars night it never scared me I loved

2403
02:11:25,259 --> 02:11:19,899
it

2404
02:11:29,849 --> 02:11:25,269
and then when I got in my car that night

2405
02:11:32,309 --> 02:11:29,859
in September of 1979 headed back to our

2406
02:11:35,819 --> 02:11:32,319
home in Littleton about a two-hour and

2407
02:11:39,809 --> 02:11:35,829
some drive from Sterling I remember

2408
02:11:41,729 --> 02:11:39,819
looking up because sheriff Tex graves

2409
02:11:44,399 --> 02:11:41,739
had said that law enforcement was

2410
02:11:46,729 --> 02:11:44,409
convinced that the only way that these

2411
02:11:50,369 --> 02:11:46,739
animals could be taken

2412
02:11:53,069 --> 02:11:50,379
having the excisions no blood no tracks

2413
02:11:56,669 --> 02:11:53,079
is that they would have to have be taken

2414
02:12:01,109 --> 02:11:56,679
by something into the sky and lowered by

2415
02:12:05,009 --> 02:12:01,119
something from the sky and that whole

2416
02:12:08,549 --> 02:12:05,019
drive back I realized I became aware I

2417
02:12:11,489 --> 02:12:08,559
was nervous about the growing night sky

2418
02:12:15,749 --> 02:12:11,499
for the very first time in my life and

2419
02:12:20,729 --> 02:12:15,759
that was a transition that eventually I

2420
02:12:25,529 --> 02:12:20,739
had to deal with myself that everybody

2421
02:12:28,139 --> 02:12:25,539
does when the government is playing

2422
02:12:29,849 --> 02:12:28,149
hardball with people and that you're

2423
02:12:32,459 --> 02:12:29,859
dealing with intelligences from

2424
02:12:34,769 --> 02:12:32,469
someplace else you don't understand and

2425
02:12:37,199 --> 02:12:34,779
that there might be a good reason for

2426
02:12:40,619 --> 02:12:37,209
what is occurring on the planet but

2427
02:12:44,789 --> 02:12:40,629
nobody is filling you in and that you

2428
02:12:48,479 --> 02:12:44,799
want to continue to be active in a world

2429
02:12:53,159 --> 02:12:48,489
where the night sky does not scare you

2430
02:12:56,899 --> 02:12:53,169
eventually I still remember the time and

2431
02:12:59,939 --> 02:12:56,909
it was in 1983 when I was trying so hard

2432
02:13:01,829 --> 02:12:59,949
to keep things going to do the HBO

2433
02:13:04,589 --> 02:13:01,839
project in spite of the government

2434
02:13:08,129 --> 02:13:04,599
making it very difficult and clearly

2435
02:13:12,449 --> 02:13:08,139
wanting to stop me that I had to come to

2436
02:13:17,849 --> 02:13:12,459
terms with myself I had to come I had to

2437
02:13:21,359 --> 02:13:17,859
come term with you cannot live life in

2438
02:13:24,749 --> 02:13:21,369
fear it's impossible bill okay ting in

2439
02:13:28,139 --> 02:13:24,759
every way mind body and spirit and so

2440
02:13:29,760 --> 02:13:28,149
you've got to learn how to put one foot

2441
02:13:32,280 --> 02:13:29,770
in front of the other

2442
02:13:35,250 --> 02:13:32,290
just keep going you're not doing

2443
02:13:38,390 --> 02:13:35,260
anything wrong you are simply trying to

2444
02:13:41,250 --> 02:13:38,400
find out the truth about other

2445
02:13:43,380 --> 02:13:41,260
intelligences in this universe that have

2446
02:13:45,360 --> 02:13:43,390
interacted with this planet according to

2447
02:13:48,240 --> 02:13:45,370
government people who have first-hand

2448
02:13:50,880 --> 02:13:48,250
knowledge and that you have to put

2449
02:13:54,000 --> 02:13:50,890
yourself psychologically and what you

2450
02:13:56,700 --> 02:13:54,010
are still supposed to be a journalist

2451
02:13:59,520 --> 02:13:56,710
protected by the First Amendment of the

2452
02:14:02,670 --> 02:13:59,530
Constitution with the right in a

2453
02:14:05,190 --> 02:14:02,680
government of by and for the people to

2454
02:14:07,200 --> 02:14:05,200
pursue the investigation of anything

2455
02:14:10,740 --> 02:14:07,210
that affects those people in that nation

2456
02:14:13,710 --> 02:14:10,750
a report about it to the best of your

2457
02:14:17,880 --> 02:14:13,720
ability as honestly as you can making

2458
02:14:23,280 --> 02:14:17,890
the pressure effect the pressure of fact

2459
02:14:26,340 --> 02:14:23,290
is my guide always has been always will

2460
02:14:31,130 --> 02:14:26,350
be no matter how strange the subject

2461
02:14:36,150 --> 02:14:31,140
matter and never back off never back off

2462
02:14:40,980 --> 02:14:36,160
because somebody says this cannot be

2463
02:14:44,000 --> 02:14:40,990
pursued and eventually what happened I

2464
02:14:47,700 --> 02:14:44,010
think I have been in some very dangerous

2465
02:14:51,900 --> 02:14:47,710
situations I have had some very highly

2466
02:14:55,800 --> 02:14:51,910
strange things happen that probably were

2467
02:15:00,750 --> 02:14:55,810
in the threat category but I am still

2468
02:15:03,930 --> 02:15:00,760
here and it has been 40 years and it is

2469
02:15:08,070 --> 02:15:03,940
now more exciting because where we

2470
02:15:10,500 --> 02:15:08,080
started this interview that we are no

2471
02:15:13,020 --> 02:15:10,510
matter whether the government has the

2472
02:15:15,410 --> 02:15:13,030
courage and it takes courage I guess at

2473
02:15:18,900 --> 02:15:15,420
this point after thousands of years

2474
02:15:22,230 --> 02:15:18,910
finally tell the planet the truth but by

2475
02:15:24,120 --> 02:15:22,240
God if in 2018 they will finally get

2476
02:15:25,050 --> 02:15:24,130
that headline out we're not alone in

2477
02:15:27,420 --> 02:15:25,060
this universe

2478
02:15:30,090 --> 02:15:27,430
and that there's maybe a lot of stuff

2479
02:15:32,940 --> 02:15:30,100
out there that likes us and that are our

2480
02:15:36,090 --> 02:15:32,950
allies as the remote viewers say and

2481
02:15:38,790 --> 02:15:36,100
that no matter what else is out there we

2482
02:15:42,120 --> 02:15:38,800
do have allies and that we are on an

2483
02:15:42,859 --> 02:15:42,130
exciting brink where we're going to

2484
02:15:47,300 --> 02:15:42,869
start

2485
02:15:49,459 --> 02:15:47,310
sending things out with lasers trying to

2486
02:15:53,000 --> 02:15:49,469
go faster and faster in the speed of

2487
02:15:56,810 --> 02:15:53,010
light and I think you are must is

2488
02:15:59,479 --> 02:15:56,820
determined to get to Mars and there may

2489
02:16:03,470 --> 02:15:59,489
be a bunch of reasons why they want to

2490
02:16:07,370 --> 02:16:03,480
get somebody on Mars Jimmy so that no

2491
02:16:10,640 --> 02:16:07,380
matter what begins appearing on Mars or

2492
02:16:12,919 --> 02:16:10,650
what ancient archaeology is on Mars that

2493
02:16:15,680 --> 02:16:12,929
I'm convinced is there they won't have

2494
02:16:19,250 --> 02:16:15,690
somebody like Elon Musk now to explain

2495
02:16:24,169 --> 02:16:19,260
anything that happens there are you

2496
02:16:27,500 --> 02:16:24,179
sitting on and a please answer the

2497
02:16:29,720 --> 02:16:27,510
question are you are you sitting on

2498
02:16:37,480 --> 02:16:29,730
stuff that you haven't revealed and that

2499
02:16:47,000 --> 02:16:43,370
yes I became aware long ago that I have

2500
02:16:50,150 --> 02:16:47,010
to learn how to part mentalize I have to

2501
02:16:53,419 --> 02:16:50,160
learn how to protect information for

2502
02:16:55,879 --> 02:16:53,429
which I had no proof that I can talk

2503
02:16:58,339 --> 02:16:55,889
about things in general and say I have

2504
02:17:02,240 --> 02:16:58,349
no proof that I have to protect

2505
02:17:04,580 --> 02:17:02,250
whistleblowers for real so yes I do a

2506
02:17:06,349 --> 02:17:04,590
lot of compartmentalization and yes I

2507
02:17:09,410 --> 02:17:06,359
sit on a tremendous amount of

2508
02:17:12,049 --> 02:17:09,420
information that some right now that I'm

2509
02:17:16,429 --> 02:17:12,059
hoping in the next few months that I can

2510
02:17:18,560 --> 02:17:16,439
go forth but I can say this and I have

2511
02:17:21,410 --> 02:17:18,570
said it on my own

2512
02:17:25,060 --> 02:17:21,420
earth file YouTube channel and I have

2513
02:17:27,919 --> 02:17:25,070
said it in some of the conference's the

2514
02:17:31,910 --> 02:17:27,929
for whistleblowers that I mentioned at

2515
02:17:36,020 --> 02:17:31,920
the beginning who have come forth with a

2516
02:17:39,259 --> 02:17:36,030
variety of I think very subsidy pieces

2517
02:17:42,049 --> 02:17:39,269
to this vast chess game that we're all

2518
02:17:45,560 --> 02:17:42,059
trying to understand just in the last

2519
02:17:48,080 --> 02:17:45,570
year and a half to two years here is the

2520
02:17:54,169 --> 02:17:48,090
common denominator and I'm going to say

2521
02:17:56,379 --> 02:17:54,179
this without proof but I think that this

2522
02:18:01,179 --> 02:17:56,389
is

2523
02:18:07,969 --> 02:18:01,189
solid information and so does somebody

2524
02:18:11,179 --> 02:18:07,979
like the man who the physicist who John

2525
02:18:14,719 --> 02:18:11,189
Brandenburg he wrote a book death on

2526
02:18:18,410 --> 02:18:14,729
Mars when I ran by what I'm going to say

2527
02:18:23,269 --> 02:18:18,420
tonight with him he said absolutely do I

2528
02:18:26,509 --> 02:18:23,279
think that that is true okay so four

2529
02:18:28,040 --> 02:18:26,519
different facets and I'm not going into

2530
02:18:30,830 --> 02:18:28,050
the different facets I'm going to give

2531
02:18:33,649 --> 02:18:30,840
the bottom line these are people who

2532
02:18:37,269 --> 02:18:33,659
have told me in various assignments and

2533
02:18:41,450 --> 02:18:37,279
special ops forces they've either seen

2534
02:18:47,169 --> 02:18:41,460
in Antarctica going by submarine to a

2535
02:18:51,799 --> 02:18:47,179
site real non-human construction because

2536
02:18:56,000 --> 02:18:51,809
goes on for a mile or two or three Jimmy

2537
02:18:59,120 --> 02:18:56,010
as if it was thought as if it was like a

2538
02:19:03,229 --> 02:18:59,130
morphogenetic field that was was filled

2539
02:19:06,919 --> 02:19:03,239
with material and becomes a huge long

2540
02:19:07,639 --> 02:19:06,929
form and there's no weld no joints no

2541
02:19:11,379 --> 02:19:07,649
anything

2542
02:19:15,219 --> 02:19:11,389
okay well that this kind of mind-blowing

2543
02:19:18,759 --> 02:19:15,229
construction and that it is in

2544
02:19:23,509 --> 02:19:18,769
Antarctica one point five miles down

2545
02:19:26,089 --> 02:19:23,519
approachable by submarine and that some

2546
02:19:28,819 --> 02:19:26,099
of these whistleblowers we have seen

2547
02:19:33,620 --> 02:19:28,829
with our own eyes symbols and

2548
02:19:36,620 --> 02:19:33,630
hieroglyphs that match photographs that

2549
02:19:40,639 --> 02:19:36,630
they have seen again on the backside of

2550
02:19:45,099 --> 02:19:40,649
the moon where there are also the same

2551
02:19:49,790 --> 02:19:45,109
type of ancient archaeology and that

2552
02:19:52,969 --> 02:19:49,800
photograph taken on Mars in the cydonia

2553
02:19:58,010 --> 02:19:52,979
region by satellite or who knows what

2554
02:20:02,229 --> 02:19:58,020
that they all match now if you take that

2555
02:20:06,040 --> 02:20:02,239
sentence and we have ancient archaeology

2556
02:20:08,640 --> 02:20:06,050
1.5 miles down under ice in Antarctica

2557
02:20:11,791 --> 02:20:08,650
approachable only by submarine

2558
02:20:13,890 --> 02:20:11,801
then mind-blowing structure under the

2559
02:20:19,291 --> 02:20:13,900
ice that still has energy in it

2560
02:20:21,990 --> 02:20:19,301
according to them and that there is now

2561
02:20:25,350 --> 02:20:22,000
symbols and hieroglyphs

2562
02:20:28,051 --> 02:20:25,360
to me that's language that's some kind

2563
02:20:31,490 --> 02:20:28,061
of communication that's embedded on

2564
02:20:34,470 --> 02:20:31,500
these structures and it said and if the

2565
02:20:37,410 --> 02:20:34,480
language is the symbols in the

2566
02:20:39,390 --> 02:20:37,420
hieroglyphs match between what's in

2567
02:20:40,530 --> 02:20:39,400
Antarctica what's on the backside of the

2568
02:20:41,850 --> 02:20:40,540
moon and what's in the northern

2569
02:20:45,570 --> 02:20:41,860
hemisphere of Mars

2570
02:20:48,660 --> 02:20:45,580
I think Occam's razor two plus two

2571
02:20:51,511 --> 02:20:48,670
equals four the same intelligence was

2572
02:20:54,871 --> 02:20:51,521
involved in Mars the backside of the

2573
02:20:59,640 --> 02:20:54,881
moon or all of the moon and the earth

2574
02:21:02,761 --> 02:20:59,650
and this solar system and beyond now how

2575
02:21:05,400 --> 02:21:02,771
long ago it's interesting when you try

2576
02:21:08,551 --> 02:21:05,410
to do research about when exactly was

2577
02:21:12,631 --> 02:21:08,561
the last time that Antarctica did not

2578
02:21:14,970 --> 02:21:12,641
have 1.5 to 2 miles of ice on it and you

2579
02:21:19,381 --> 02:21:14,980
will find there is a kind of consensus

2580
02:21:21,930 --> 02:21:19,391
around 13 million years ago and then

2581
02:21:26,041 --> 02:21:21,940
there's another idea that maybe it goes

2582
02:21:30,030 --> 02:21:26,051
back to 33 million years ago either of

2583
02:21:33,360 --> 02:21:30,040
those numbers compare in your mind to

2584
02:21:37,320 --> 02:21:33,370
Lucy and Africa allegedly the first

2585
02:21:42,560 --> 02:21:37,330
standing of primate right 2 million 2

2586
02:21:50,400 --> 02:21:42,570
million years ago versus 13 million and

2587
02:21:56,570 --> 02:21:50,410
33 million of provable provable advanced

2588
02:22:00,121 --> 02:21:56,580
architecture that language terraforming

2589
02:22:03,450 --> 02:22:00,131
manipulation on this planet and if it is

2590
02:22:06,841 --> 02:22:03,460
13 million or 33 million years ago and

2591
02:22:09,961 --> 02:22:06,851
it's now one point five miles down under

2592
02:22:13,980 --> 02:22:09,971
ice approachable by submarine but the

2593
02:22:17,160 --> 02:22:13,990
entire world has been denied that

2594
02:22:21,301 --> 02:22:17,170
knowledge and I'm not so sure I'm not so

2595
02:22:22,621 --> 02:22:21,311
sure Lucy is even related to us right if

2596
02:22:25,140 --> 02:22:22,631
you know

2597
02:22:27,600 --> 02:22:25,150
it's the beginning what color erectus is

2598
02:22:30,390 --> 02:22:27,610
the beginning of the evolutionary trail

2599
02:22:32,940 --> 02:22:30,400
to hollow sapien sapien which is us yeah

2600
02:22:37,560 --> 02:22:32,950
but what I'm yeah I understand but what

2601
02:22:40,051 --> 02:22:37,570
I am saying is us you and I our versions

2602
02:22:42,751 --> 02:22:40,061
of us we go back 150 thousand hundred

2603
02:22:44,610 --> 02:22:42,761
seventy-five thousand years right well

2604
02:22:47,791 --> 02:22:44,620
well well wait wait wait

2605
02:22:51,301 --> 02:22:47,801
the current crowmon yin Homo sapiens

2606
02:22:54,180 --> 02:22:51,311
sapiens that's us the overlap with

2607
02:22:58,261 --> 02:22:54,190
neanderthalensis which is the previous

2608
02:23:01,281 --> 02:22:58,271
that had a bigger cubic brain than we do

2609
02:23:04,531 --> 02:23:01,291
it was now they're talking about how

2610
02:23:07,201 --> 02:23:04,541
Neanderthals were actually some of the

2611
02:23:12,751 --> 02:23:07,211
artists in some of the caves in the

2612
02:23:15,541 --> 02:23:12,761
France and Spain region they put because

2613
02:23:19,230 --> 02:23:15,551
they now know that Neanderthal graves

2614
02:23:22,230 --> 02:23:19,240
had pollen on them that they put flowers

2615
02:23:23,100 --> 02:23:22,240
on the graves of their dead which means

2616
02:23:28,381 --> 02:23:23,110
to me

2617
02:23:31,131 --> 02:23:28,391
they had compassion they had soul y4i

2618
02:23:34,890 --> 02:23:31,141
I've always thought it was 35,000 to

2619
02:23:38,131 --> 02:23:34,900
45,000 years that there was a transition

2620
02:23:41,011 --> 02:23:38,141
from the last of neanderthalensis to

2621
02:23:44,190 --> 02:23:41,021
homo sapiens sapiens romanian being

2622
02:23:45,810 --> 02:23:44,200
dominant humanoid on the earth not a

2623
02:23:49,531 --> 02:23:45,820
hundred and some thousand there were

2624
02:23:53,781 --> 02:23:49,541
clearly prior primate humanoids but

2625
02:23:57,991 --> 02:23:53,791
there's a difference between a primate

2626
02:24:00,751 --> 02:23:58,001
humanoid that was Denis Sivan or Homo

2627
02:24:03,661 --> 02:24:00,761
erectus or coming up through the various

2628
02:24:05,461 --> 02:24:03,671
types getting to some of these lines

2629
02:24:07,350 --> 02:24:05,471
that they just discovered and they have

2630
02:24:09,810 --> 02:24:07,360
no idea where they come from you know

2631
02:24:14,011 --> 02:24:09,820
we've had breaking news about very

2632
02:24:16,531 --> 02:24:14,021
strange DNA finds just in the past

2633
02:24:19,680 --> 02:24:16,541
twelve months and then getting up to

2634
02:24:22,821 --> 02:24:19,690
neanderthalensis and the transition to

2635
02:24:26,640 --> 02:24:22,831
chrome on Ian Homo Sapien sapien between

2636
02:24:30,781 --> 02:24:26,650
35,000 and 45,000 years ago and this big

2637
02:24:35,940 --> 02:24:30,791
question if Neanderthals had larger

2638
02:24:36,570 --> 02:24:35,950
brain capacity and that they were doing

2639
02:24:39,960 --> 02:24:36,580
some of the

2640
02:24:43,770 --> 02:24:39,970
the art in the cave and they buried

2641
02:24:48,650 --> 02:24:43,780
their dead and did so with compassion

2642
02:24:52,801 --> 02:24:48,660
and tenderness why were neanderthalensis

2643
02:24:55,890 --> 02:24:52,811
replaced by the tribal warfare Nkrumah

2644
02:24:59,820 --> 02:24:55,900
and Homo sapiens sapiens did I just get

2645
02:25:07,620 --> 02:24:59,830
shut down by Linda Moulton Howe did I

2646
02:25:14,370 --> 02:25:07,630
just get shut down I guess my point my

2647
02:25:16,890 --> 02:25:14,380
point was that Malusi but we have all of

2648
02:25:19,770 --> 02:25:16,900
these different examples of things that

2649
02:25:22,500 --> 02:25:19,780
have come and gone and if we go back and

2650
02:25:25,830 --> 02:25:22,510
look at Antarctica 33 million years ago

2651
02:25:27,540 --> 02:25:25,840
75 million years ago octopus now 250

2652
02:25:31,761 --> 02:25:27,550
million years ago just appeared here

2653
02:25:34,110 --> 02:25:31,771
that there are many examples of

2654
02:25:36,660 --> 02:25:34,120
civilizations and cultures that have

2655
02:25:39,410 --> 02:25:36,670
come and gone we have only been here for

2656
02:25:43,890 --> 02:25:39,420
a hundred and fifty thousand years and

2657
02:25:48,090 --> 02:25:43,900
that we is 150 thousand years

2658
02:25:51,150 --> 02:25:48,100
I think this current model is 35 to 45

2659
02:25:53,900 --> 02:25:51,160
thousand years but in the context of 2

2660
02:25:57,450 --> 02:25:53,910
million years of evolving and

2661
02:26:00,540 --> 02:25:57,460
manipulated remember yes that that paper

2662
02:26:03,750 --> 02:26:00,550
that Doty showed me a Kurland said right

2663
02:26:06,900 --> 02:26:03,760
in it that these extraterrestrial isms

2664
02:26:12,301 --> 02:26:06,910
the quote manipulated DNA in already

2665
02:26:16,560 --> 02:26:12,311
evolving primates to create Homo Sapien

2666
02:26:24,530 --> 02:26:16,570
that is a direct quote Thank You Linda

2667
02:26:29,580 --> 02:26:24,540
that briefing paper of the document

2668
02:26:31,860 --> 02:26:29,590
project let's see it was Project garnet

2669
02:26:34,220 --> 02:26:31,870
because I remember I said remember your

2670
02:26:40,940 --> 02:26:34,230
birthstone and I was born in January

2671
02:26:44,850 --> 02:26:40,950
project all questions and mysteries

2672
02:26:49,110 --> 02:26:44,860
about the evolution of Homo Sapien on

2673
02:26:50,480 --> 02:26:49,120
this planet have been answered and this

2674
02:26:54,860 --> 02:26:50,490
project

2675
02:26:58,370 --> 02:26:54,870
closed I must have read that sentence

2676
02:27:02,570 --> 02:26:58,380
over and over and over as if I were in a

2677
02:27:06,820 --> 02:27:02,580
mild state of shock trying to absorb all

2678
02:27:10,310 --> 02:27:06,830
the implications of those words all

2679
02:27:13,850 --> 02:27:10,320
questions and mysteries about the

2680
02:27:16,430 --> 02:27:13,860
evolution of Homo Sapien on this planet

2681
02:27:19,160 --> 02:27:16,440
have been answered and this project is

2682
02:27:23,450 --> 02:27:19,170
closed and when you think about that

2683
02:27:27,460 --> 02:27:23,460
right now tonight in 2018 the people

2684
02:27:31,190 --> 02:27:27,470
going back to World War two dealing with

2685
02:27:35,480 --> 02:27:31,200
perhaps not even real crashes but like

2686
02:27:37,880 --> 02:27:35,490
Trojan horse planted craft sure in not

2687
02:27:40,850 --> 02:27:37,890
only in the United States but Russia and

2688
02:27:44,810 --> 02:27:40,860
China and Italy and all over the planet

2689
02:27:47,750 --> 02:27:44,820
it actually was happening and then they

2690
02:27:51,890 --> 02:27:47,760
made a decision in the United States

2691
02:27:55,640 --> 02:27:51,900
that would counter absolutely counter to

2692
02:27:58,580 --> 02:27:55,650
the founding of America we should have

2693
02:28:01,340 --> 02:27:58,590
been told we should have been told

2694
02:28:04,160 --> 02:28:01,350
everything and I understand the

2695
02:28:06,740 --> 02:28:04,170
arguments I understand world war two I

2696
02:28:10,190 --> 02:28:06,750
understand that they were concerned

2697
02:28:13,700 --> 02:28:10,200
about getting the best technology is

2698
02:28:15,680 --> 02:28:13,710
making the best weapons moving into the

2699
02:28:18,800 --> 02:28:15,690
Atomic Age all of it

2700
02:28:21,950 --> 02:28:18,810
that was a testosterone concern and

2701
02:28:25,760 --> 02:28:21,960
probably a legitimate one but at the

2702
02:28:28,730 --> 02:28:25,770
same time if everybody in the United

2703
02:28:31,430 --> 02:28:28,740
States had lived up to what our founding

2704
02:28:36,200 --> 02:28:31,440
was about then we should have all been

2705
02:28:38,600 --> 02:28:36,210
told the truth we have technologies and

2706
02:28:41,780 --> 02:28:38,610
what appear to be and they knew this in

2707
02:28:44,780 --> 02:28:41,790
the beginning in Missouri to first

2708
02:28:46,490 --> 02:28:44,790
beings from Cape Girardeau in 1941 I

2709
02:28:47,690 --> 02:28:46,500
think the evidence for that all this

2710
02:28:51,110 --> 02:28:47,700
happened is huge

2711
02:28:54,170 --> 02:28:51,120
that's right those were clones and those

2712
02:28:56,719 --> 02:28:54,180
were very bright people in the FDR

2713
02:29:00,950 --> 02:28:56,729
administration and they recognized that

2714
02:29:03,760 --> 02:29:00,960
those two beings were clones and that

2715
02:29:06,219 --> 02:29:03,770
means that our government must have been

2716
02:29:10,240 --> 02:29:06,229
working overtime trying to understand

2717
02:29:13,660 --> 02:29:10,250
what is the implication of two clones in

2718
02:29:15,279 --> 02:29:13,670
some kind of a craft came from outer

2719
02:29:18,189 --> 02:29:15,289
space because you know what would have

2720
02:29:25,920 --> 02:29:18,199
been my first question if these are

2721
02:29:30,450 --> 02:29:25,930
clones who made them and this one of the

2722
02:29:34,929 --> 02:29:30,460
most important points when we look at us

2723
02:29:40,359 --> 02:29:34,939
when it comes to DNA we're something

2724
02:29:43,359 --> 02:29:40,369
obvious happened well a few times way

2725
02:29:45,370 --> 02:29:43,369
before we had that technology we're

2726
02:29:48,420 --> 02:29:45,380
talking about you know tens of thousands

2727
02:29:51,130 --> 02:29:48,430
of years ago or more at different stages

2728
02:29:53,710 --> 02:29:51,140
quite possibly going back millions of

2729
02:29:55,479 --> 02:29:53,720
years but eventually don't you think

2730
02:29:57,099 --> 02:29:55,489
Linda that there are going to be

2731
02:30:01,170 --> 02:29:57,109
geneticists out there there are going to

2732
02:30:05,469 --> 02:30:01,180
be DNA experts that are going to realize

2733
02:30:08,319 --> 02:30:05,479
that this wasn't a natural evolution

2734
02:30:11,500 --> 02:30:08,329
that occurred and what would they do

2735
02:30:15,969 --> 02:30:11,510
with that information is certainly not

2736
02:30:19,689 --> 02:30:15,979
going to go public shut it down because

2737
02:30:21,819 --> 02:30:19,699
the government sent world war two have

2738
02:30:24,899 --> 02:30:21,829
made this beast subject that was not

2739
02:30:28,059 --> 02:30:24,909
politically acceptable to discuss and

2740
02:30:31,269 --> 02:30:28,069
put a lot of penalties with people in

2741
02:30:34,059 --> 02:30:31,279
government agencies Intel agencies and

2742
02:30:35,649 --> 02:30:34,069
military operations have been exposed to

2743
02:30:38,050 --> 02:30:35,659
all of this these are the whistleblowers

2744
02:30:42,599 --> 02:30:38,060
that are trying so hard to communicate

2745
02:30:49,300 --> 02:30:42,609
such important information now and that

2746
02:30:55,000 --> 02:30:49,310
when you put it in a very nice way but

2747
02:30:58,330 --> 02:30:55,010
in the sense that those will say doctors

2748
02:31:00,250 --> 02:30:58,340
like bronc and passing the baton through

2749
02:31:02,939 --> 02:31:00,260
majestic 12 to the people that they were

2750
02:31:07,529 --> 02:31:02,949
bringing into the program always sworn

2751
02:31:11,679 --> 02:31:07,539
strict non-disclosure agreement today I

2752
02:31:15,550 --> 02:31:11,689
am working on material that I will be

2753
02:31:17,139 --> 02:31:15,560
able to talk about sometime soon that

2754
02:31:22,179 --> 02:31:17,149
goes into this

2755
02:31:26,500 --> 02:31:22,189
a category of is there proof on earth

2756
02:31:31,120 --> 02:31:26,510
now of hybrids in which the genetic

2757
02:31:34,779 --> 02:31:31,130
material is Homo primate or primate

2758
02:31:39,449 --> 02:31:34,789
human primate mixed something unknown

2759
02:31:43,389 --> 02:31:39,459
and the fact that that must be

2760
02:31:46,449 --> 02:31:43,399
scientifically provable and yet we're on

2761
02:31:49,719 --> 02:31:46,459
a planet where scientists know this and

2762
02:31:52,540 --> 02:31:49,729
they know what they're dealing with but

2763
02:31:55,469 --> 02:31:52,550
because we are living in some kind of

2764
02:32:01,090 --> 02:31:55,479
what was it Robert Bigelow called it a

2765
02:32:05,229 --> 02:32:01,100
juvenile taboo perfect he said that in

2766
02:32:07,719 --> 02:32:05,239
the interview with I think juveniles

2767
02:32:09,219 --> 02:32:07,729
taboo was in one of his interviews I

2768
02:32:13,120 --> 02:32:09,229
don't know if it was in the 60 minutes

2769
02:32:16,330 --> 02:32:13,130
when last year but it's a perfect name

2770
02:32:20,170 --> 02:32:16,340
for what has been happening juvenile

2771
02:32:23,800 --> 02:32:20,180
abou we have to get past suppressing

2772
02:32:26,409 --> 02:32:23,810
everything because there was a goal to

2773
02:32:29,529 --> 02:32:26,419
have this advanced extraterrestrial

2774
02:32:33,250 --> 02:32:29,539
technology super weapons be able to do

2775
02:32:37,510 --> 02:32:33,260
super wars when in fact maybe the entire

2776
02:32:40,659 --> 02:32:37,520
world would stop fighting itself if it

2777
02:32:42,939 --> 02:32:40,669
knew for truth that all of the

2778
02:32:45,460 --> 02:32:42,949
governments that have the bodies and the

2779
02:32:48,460 --> 02:32:45,470
craft and the technology right now told

2780
02:32:52,599 --> 02:32:48,470
the truth the whole planet that deserves

2781
02:32:58,319 --> 02:32:52,609
to know maybe some of the horrible

2782
02:33:01,000 --> 02:32:58,329
insidious tribal warfare would end when

2783
02:33:04,210 --> 02:33:01,010
December 16th you know the New York

2784
02:33:07,000 --> 02:33:04,220
Times the days of disclosure and and and

2785
02:33:10,599 --> 02:33:07,010
all of this blew up in mass media around

2786
02:33:13,750 --> 02:33:10,609
the world every all of those government

2787
02:33:16,120 --> 02:33:13,760
reports that predicted an arcing the

2788
02:33:21,010 --> 02:33:16,130
streets and the collapse of religion and

2789
02:33:23,500 --> 02:33:21,020
Wall Street and governments and movor we

2790
02:33:30,260 --> 02:33:23,510
would lose our minds clearly Linda that

2791
02:33:33,830 --> 02:33:30,270
didn't happen exactly I mean look I have

2792
02:33:35,740 --> 02:33:33,840
said now for about three years or two

2793
02:33:38,870 --> 02:33:35,750
years for sure

2794
02:33:43,519 --> 02:33:38,880
conferences I'll give you one and it

2795
02:33:45,679 --> 02:33:43,529
makes the point exactly I was an evening

2796
02:33:49,819 --> 02:33:45,689
speaker in Manchester England

2797
02:33:52,490 --> 02:33:49,829
on March 4th 2017 I and Erich von

2798
02:33:55,279 --> 02:33:52,500
däniken was the second evening speaker

2799
02:33:59,450 --> 02:33:55,289
he and I were featured and we were in a

2800
02:34:02,149 --> 02:33:59,460
huge Sports Complex that could

2801
02:34:08,149 --> 02:34:02,159
accommodate the audience that night I'm

2802
02:34:11,750 --> 02:34:08,159
told with 2,200 or 2,500 people and I

2803
02:34:17,240 --> 02:34:11,760
was first up at 7 o'clock and I had

2804
02:34:21,319 --> 02:34:17,250
brought my presentation on the binary

2805
02:34:24,340 --> 02:34:21,329
code that I have encountered whether it

2806
02:34:29,439 --> 02:34:24,350
would in Rendlesham with Jim Penniston

2807
02:34:32,090 --> 02:34:29,449
or stuff that it happened in Japan or a

2808
02:34:34,370 --> 02:34:32,100
very person that I was working with who

2809
02:34:37,279 --> 02:34:34,380
was getting downloads in binary and we

2810
02:34:41,210 --> 02:34:37,289
translating it all of that it was a

2811
02:34:45,260 --> 02:34:41,220
complex program and I wasn't sure if my

2812
02:34:48,410 --> 02:34:45,270
90 minutes would be accessible to this

2813
02:34:50,750 --> 02:34:48,420
broad UK with some European visitor

2814
02:34:55,849 --> 02:34:50,760
audience or not and I was worried about

2815
02:34:58,279 --> 02:34:55,859
it but I did the presentation as I had

2816
02:35:03,260 --> 02:34:58,289
produced it in the United States and

2817
02:35:07,300 --> 02:35:03,270
hence minute and so when I got to the

2818
02:35:11,120 --> 02:35:07,310
end and I just had this overwhelming

2819
02:35:14,330 --> 02:35:11,130
feeling for this big huge audience in

2820
02:35:17,710 --> 02:35:14,340
front of me as by fellow human beings on

2821
02:35:21,679 --> 02:35:17,720
this planet who all deserved the truth

2822
02:35:24,590 --> 02:35:21,689
not lies upon lies upon lies for

2823
02:35:26,750 --> 02:35:24,600
centuries I simply looked at it it's

2824
02:35:30,229 --> 02:35:26,760
massive crowd and I said thank you

2825
02:35:32,450 --> 02:35:30,239
Manchester and what happened

2826
02:35:34,099 --> 02:35:32,460
they owners told me they'd never seen

2827
02:35:36,620 --> 02:35:34,109
anything like it I've never seen

2828
02:35:37,689 --> 02:35:36,630
anything like it I never felt anything

2829
02:35:41,899 --> 02:35:37,699
like it

2830
02:35:43,591 --> 02:35:41,909
every person in that huge huge place

2831
02:35:46,860 --> 02:35:43,601
jumps up

2832
02:35:49,530 --> 02:35:46,870
at once and they were screaming my name

2833
02:35:52,950 --> 02:35:49,540
they were screaming and there was this

2834
02:35:56,430 --> 02:35:52,960
feeling of energy that came on me like a

2835
02:36:01,350 --> 02:35:56,440
wave from this huge audience jumping up

2836
02:36:04,791 --> 02:36:01,360
screaming and what it was almost ever

2837
02:36:10,830 --> 02:36:04,801
this whole audience were Millennials

2838
02:36:14,570 --> 02:36:10,840
with kids and they they were so far

2839
02:36:20,341 --> 02:36:14,580
beyond the policies of denial and lies

2840
02:36:23,280 --> 02:36:20,351
they were so convinced there was this

2841
02:36:27,990 --> 02:36:23,290
was an audience that was saying to me

2842
02:36:33,030 --> 02:36:28,000
and that huge huge ovation scream thank

2843
02:36:39,150 --> 02:36:33,040
you for talking to us without the you

2844
02:36:41,640 --> 02:36:39,160
know what and and I find that now more

2845
02:36:45,230 --> 02:36:41,650
and more in audiences and the

2846
02:36:49,230 --> 02:36:45,240
communications there are so many people

2847
02:36:52,770 --> 02:36:49,240
for way way past they they're they know

2848
02:36:54,841 --> 02:36:52,780
that the the idea that we're alone in

2849
02:36:57,390 --> 02:36:54,851
the universe facility that's what

2850
02:36:59,910 --> 02:36:57,400
happened in 70 years since World War two

2851
02:37:03,020 --> 02:36:59,920
where they might have been worried about

2852
02:37:04,501 --> 02:37:03,030
consequences today people think that is

2853
02:37:07,801 --> 02:37:04,511
antiquated

2854
02:37:13,830 --> 02:37:07,811
they've it's silly of course this

2855
02:37:18,450 --> 02:37:13,840
universe has other life in it the Thank

2856
02:37:21,530 --> 02:37:18,460
You Manchester I can see it now right it

2857
02:37:27,570 --> 02:37:21,540
was wonderful because everybody was

2858
02:37:31,620 --> 02:37:27,580
united in that same birth of yes yes we

2859
02:37:34,470 --> 02:37:31,630
are in the presence of what is real not

2860
02:37:37,680 --> 02:37:34,480
a policies of lies yeah I saw the

2861
02:37:39,501 --> 02:37:37,690
photographs of that and it was an

2862
02:37:43,020 --> 02:37:39,511
incredible that was Steve Mehra's

2863
02:37:45,770 --> 02:37:43,030
conference right oh yeah yeah he was

2864
02:37:51,001 --> 02:37:45,780
there and Batali and all those guys and

2865
02:37:53,850 --> 02:37:51,011
it was it was just an outstanding moment

2866
02:37:57,090 --> 02:37:53,860
I will never forget I'm very grateful

2867
02:38:00,030 --> 02:37:57,100
and and where was I I just

2868
02:38:04,679 --> 02:38:00,040
got back I did a presentation in New

2869
02:38:07,019 --> 02:38:04,689
York City on AI and then I was in

2870
02:38:09,780 --> 02:38:07,029
Vermont and did a presentation there I

2871
02:38:14,000 --> 02:38:09,790
just got back a few days ago and when I

2872
02:38:17,399 --> 02:38:14,010
was in New York City a man came up to me

2873
02:38:23,399 --> 02:38:17,409
after I did my artificial intelligence

2874
02:38:26,130 --> 02:38:23,409
there and he took my hand and he had his

2875
02:38:30,510 --> 02:38:26,140
eyes were glistening like with slight

2876
02:38:35,099 --> 02:38:30,520
tears and he said I was in that audience

2877
02:38:37,979 --> 02:38:35,109
on March 4th in Manchester and I had to

2878
02:38:40,830 --> 02:38:37,989
come see you in New York City because I

2879
02:38:43,649 --> 02:38:40,840
was here on a trip and it was like the

2880
02:38:46,979 --> 02:38:43,659
binding that everybody who had that

2881
02:38:51,590 --> 02:38:46,989
experience with me and with Eric that

2882
02:38:54,750 --> 02:38:51,600
night we were bound in that kind of

2883
02:38:58,160 --> 02:38:54,760
amazing weave that can happen sometimes

2884
02:39:01,469 --> 02:38:58,170
in human lives where everybody in that

2885
02:39:04,260 --> 02:39:01,479
choo-choo-choo Jews place we were all in

2886
02:39:07,519 --> 02:39:04,270
the same page thank you so much Linda

2887
02:39:10,320 --> 02:39:07,529
and I can't wait to see you next week I

2888
02:39:16,260 --> 02:39:10,330
believe contact in the desert is in

2889
02:39:19,830 --> 02:39:16,270
seven days yes and I am doing fast radio

2890
02:39:23,670 --> 02:39:19,840
bursts I'm doing Sasquatch UFOs and

2891
02:39:27,109 --> 02:39:23,680
animal mutilations I am doing the

2892
02:39:31,139 --> 02:39:27,119
artificial intelligence and I am doing

2893
02:39:36,240 --> 02:39:31,149
military Whistleblower revelations about

2894
02:39:38,490 --> 02:39:36,250
UFOs and how do how does it make you

2895
02:39:41,760 --> 02:39:38,500
feel when you walk around you know a

2896
02:39:44,460 --> 02:39:41,770
ginormous event like contact and and

2897
02:39:46,830 --> 02:39:44,470
people just come up to you all day long

2898
02:39:50,700 --> 02:39:46,840
and and they just want to thank you you

2899
02:39:54,630 --> 02:39:50,710
know how does that make you and hug hug

2900
02:39:57,120 --> 02:39:54,640
there are so many and you know what it's

2901
02:40:01,820 --> 02:39:57,130
the same thing in Manchester I

2902
02:40:06,120 --> 02:40:01,830
experienced it in New York City where

2903
02:40:11,020 --> 02:40:06,130
many people male and female both of all

2904
02:40:13,360 --> 02:40:11,030
kinds of ages and they come up and

2905
02:40:14,530 --> 02:40:13,370
have tears in their eyes this has been

2906
02:40:17,350 --> 02:40:14,540
happening a lot

2907
02:40:20,560 --> 02:40:17,360
I think if tears in their eyes and they

2908
02:40:23,350 --> 02:40:20,570
take all of my shoulder and their

2909
02:40:29,200 --> 02:40:23,360
varying kinds of thank-yous and what I

2910
02:40:32,500 --> 02:40:29,210
feel is that truth is truth is truth

2911
02:40:35,530 --> 02:40:32,510
Jimmy and for those of us who have been

2912
02:40:39,790 --> 02:40:35,540
trying for a long time to get to real

2913
02:40:42,400 --> 02:40:39,800
truth and then that we are on a planet

2914
02:40:46,090 --> 02:40:42,410
that is as revolutionary and difficult

2915
02:40:49,360 --> 02:40:46,100
as this one is now and people are hungry

2916
02:40:53,620 --> 02:40:49,370
for truth because we are now in

2917
02:40:57,430 --> 02:40:53,630
political systems that every 24/7 cycle

2918
02:41:01,150 --> 02:40:57,440
are lying as a course of their day cool

2919
02:41:04,000 --> 02:41:01,160
in the political realm do you think is

2920
02:41:07,660 --> 02:41:04,010
telling any truths anymore and so there

2921
02:41:09,520 --> 02:41:07,670
is this huge huge gulf between people

2922
02:41:12,610 --> 02:41:09,530
who would like to know what is reality

2923
02:41:15,130 --> 02:41:12,620
and a world of governments now and all

2924
02:41:17,440 --> 02:41:15,140
they do is lie and that there is

2925
02:41:22,720 --> 02:41:17,450
something about the tears in people's

2926
02:41:26,050 --> 02:41:22,730
eyes that human I think would like to

2927
02:41:29,650 --> 02:41:26,060
feel that we could get back to a planet

2928
02:41:33,040 --> 02:41:29,660
where humans respected each other enough

2929
02:41:38,280 --> 02:41:33,050
love each other enough as a species that

2930
02:41:43,120 --> 02:41:38,290
we could tell the truth and that is the

2931
02:41:44,980 --> 02:41:43,130
huge bonding I am feeling in audiences

2932
02:41:48,280 --> 02:41:44,990
and with people coming up and hugging

2933
02:41:51,070 --> 02:41:48,290
and crying in tears they're not tears of

2934
02:41:55,450 --> 02:41:51,080
sadness they are tears of being joined

2935
02:41:59,110 --> 02:41:55,460
by wanting the truth and that's all I

2936
02:42:03,190 --> 02:41:59,120
have ever been trying to give people and

2937
02:42:06,040 --> 02:42:03,200
that it hurts me to my core to think

2938
02:42:08,860 --> 02:42:06,050
that we have a government who thinks

2939
02:42:12,100 --> 02:42:08,870
that people should be hurt because they

2940
02:42:13,630 --> 02:42:12,110
just want to tell the truth that were

2941
02:42:17,070 --> 02:42:13,640
not alone in this universe

2942
02:42:22,120 --> 02:42:17,080
and from my point of view if there are

2943
02:42:24,791 --> 02:42:22,130
white and black negative positive angels

2944
02:42:27,610 --> 02:42:24,801
Devils it reflects everything

2945
02:42:30,430 --> 02:42:27,620
we've had in our nurture in our boxes of

2946
02:42:33,701 --> 02:42:30,440
religions for a long time anyway and

2947
02:42:39,041 --> 02:42:33,711
when the remote viewers say doc you have

2948
02:42:43,060 --> 02:42:39,051
allies we have friends I think that is

2949
02:42:45,820 --> 02:42:43,070
worth telling the world we can handle it

2950
02:42:48,310 --> 02:42:45,830
and what and with your help Linda it's

2951
02:42:50,680 --> 02:42:48,320
gonna get done and I know you're never

2952
02:42:56,310 --> 02:42:50,690
gonna change but I have to say it don't

2953
02:43:00,600 --> 02:42:56,320
change we need you thank you so much

2954
02:43:02,980 --> 02:43:00,610
love to you and all of your audience and

2955
02:43:05,440 --> 02:43:02,990
for all of you who might be listening

2956
02:43:08,831 --> 02:43:05,450
and who get the contact come up and

2957
02:43:11,951 --> 02:43:08,841
shake my hand and Jimmy I'll see you

2958
02:43:15,251 --> 02:43:11,961
there and I'm so glad we did this

2959
02:43:18,551 --> 02:43:15,261
tonight it feels like this is genuinely

2960
02:43:20,140 --> 02:43:18,561
important for everybody to be talking at

2961
02:43:23,350 --> 02:43:20,150
these levels

2962
02:43:25,480 --> 02:43:23,360
now really yeah like I said to you

2963
02:43:30,030 --> 02:43:25,490
through Greenwald a couple of days ago

2964
02:43:33,631 --> 02:43:30,040
breakfast is on me alright and mereta

2965
02:43:38,261 --> 02:43:33,641
thank you so much for Linda safe travels

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02:43:42,820 --> 02:43:38,271
Linda Moulton Howe and Earth files.com

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is where you want to go every single day

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02:43:47,201 --> 02:43:45,440
and every every Wednesday night she's

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doing earth files live right there on

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02:43:50,831 --> 02:43:49,131
YouTube right before fade to black and I

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02:43:52,570 --> 02:43:50,841
know that all of you over there checking

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02:43:54,761 --> 02:43:52,580
it out because you let me know when you

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02:43:56,470 --> 02:43:54,771
come over here that you just checked out

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02:43:58,841 --> 02:43:56,480
Lindo so do that every Wednesday night

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02:44:01,451 --> 02:43:58,851
and of course Thursday night Kay GRA

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with John Burroughs phenomena radio

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02:44:05,741 --> 02:44:03,410
Thank You Linda this is fade to black

2978
02:44:08,710 --> 02:44:05,751
I'm your host Jimmy Church I'll be right

2979
02:44:22,139 --> 02:44:08,720
back after this short break stay with

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3059
02:48:25,370 --> 02:48:21,271
all right welcome back

3060
02:48:27,261 --> 02:48:25,380
fade to black girls Jimmy Church Linda

3061
02:48:28,780 --> 02:48:27,271
Moulton Howe there there's a national

3062
02:48:32,990 --> 02:48:28,790
treasure right there

3063
02:48:34,580 --> 02:48:33,000
great conversation and went right

3064
02:48:37,700 --> 02:48:34,590
through a commercial break but I'd just

3065
02:48:41,270 --> 02:48:37,710
died there's just no way I'm not going

3066
02:48:42,230 --> 02:48:41,280
to stop a great conversation for a

3067
02:48:46,730 --> 02:48:42,240
commercial break

3068
02:48:48,051 --> 02:48:46,740
but a couple of things and and I'll get

3069
02:48:52,040 --> 02:48:48,061
to some of these phone calls

3070
02:48:55,850 --> 02:48:52,050
I've got enough time for a couple back

3071
02:48:58,700 --> 02:48:55,860
to the cattle mutilation one thing I

3072
02:49:04,160 --> 02:48:58,710
didn't get a chance to get the question

3073
02:49:06,440 --> 02:49:04,170
in but they just stopped and isn't that

3074
02:49:09,250 --> 02:49:06,450
interesting one of the great mysteries

3075
02:49:11,540 --> 02:49:09,260
right there's been no explanation

3076
02:49:14,720 --> 02:49:11,550
nothing from the government or

3077
02:49:16,280 --> 02:49:14,730
terrestrial laboratories that that

3078
02:49:19,490 --> 02:49:16,290
possibly could have been doing some

3079
02:49:22,490 --> 02:49:19,500
crazy animal testing it wasn't just

3080
02:49:27,591 --> 02:49:22,500
cattle by the way but nonetheless just

3081
02:49:32,810 --> 02:49:27,601
stopped and the extra-terrestrial side

3082
02:49:35,570 --> 02:49:32,820
of it I still cannot dismiss for for a

3083
02:49:40,011 --> 02:49:35,580
lot of different reasons but they just

3084
02:49:43,130 --> 02:49:40,021
stopped or have they is it not being

3085
02:49:45,380 --> 02:49:43,140
reported on anymore

3086
02:49:48,200 --> 02:49:45,390
but isn't that don't you find that

3087
02:49:52,160 --> 02:49:48,210
strange I do I mean it just completely

3088
02:49:54,320 --> 02:49:52,170
stopped and the the mutilations

3089
02:49:59,180 --> 02:49:54,330
themselves and the horses to remember

3090
02:50:03,350 --> 02:49:59,190
were real these were real but they just

3091
02:50:05,150 --> 02:50:03,360
stopped and the when you look at the

3092
02:50:06,770 --> 02:50:05,160
photographs you can read about the

3093
02:50:08,420 --> 02:50:06,780
details of and so forth but when you

3094
02:50:14,140 --> 02:50:08,430
look at the photographs you just have to

3095
02:50:17,660 --> 02:50:14,150
stop and question you know it's not

3096
02:50:20,810 --> 02:50:17,670
animals doing it okay so that that part

3097
02:50:23,841 --> 02:50:20,820
of it is is off of the table so the

3098
02:50:26,780 --> 02:50:23,851
question is who and why it's a

3099
02:50:30,150 --> 02:50:26,790
fascinating part of history in this in

3100
02:50:32,310 --> 02:50:30,160
this country one that Linda was

3101
02:50:35,160 --> 02:50:32,320
a big part of in investigating and

3102
02:50:39,301 --> 02:50:35,170
researching but I'm not so sure if we

3103
02:50:42,120 --> 02:50:39,311
ever got to the answer and I would be

3104
02:50:45,330 --> 02:50:42,130
cool with it I guess

3105
02:50:48,390 --> 02:50:45,340
if there was some resolution where you

3106
02:50:53,131 --> 02:50:48,400
know some laboratory or you know Sandia

3107
02:50:55,680 --> 02:50:53,141
or whoever was responsible for this as

3108
02:50:58,650 --> 02:50:55,690
far as a government research lab side of

3109
02:51:01,051 --> 02:50:58,660
things or or something else or the

3110
02:51:02,520 --> 02:51:01,061
military came forward and said okay this

3111
02:51:05,011 --> 02:51:02,530
is what was going on this is how we did

3112
02:51:06,841 --> 02:51:05,021
it this is why we did it and and it was

3113
02:51:08,881 --> 02:51:06,851
weapons testing whatever it is I don't

3114
02:51:14,040 --> 02:51:08,891
know I don't know radiation I don't know

3115
02:51:17,370 --> 02:51:14,050
but that didn't happen so the et side of

3116
02:51:21,511 --> 02:51:17,380
it is is still on the table and I know

3117
02:51:24,600 --> 02:51:21,521
how humans when we go into the jungle or

3118
02:51:26,940 --> 02:51:24,610
we go out and and we find a new species

3119
02:51:28,770 --> 02:51:26,950
or whatever you know it's bagged and

3120
02:51:31,560 --> 02:51:28,780
tagged and grab it and come back and

3121
02:51:33,540 --> 02:51:31,570
research and do the analysis on it well

3122
02:51:36,631 --> 02:51:33,550
if et was here on this planet they would

3123
02:51:37,770 --> 02:51:36,641
do this very same thing absolutely do

3124
02:51:40,801 --> 02:51:37,780
the very same thing

3125
02:51:43,980 --> 02:51:40,811
so the the et side of it I'm okay with

3126
02:51:46,280 --> 02:51:43,990
I'm completely okay and I wouldn't I

3127
02:51:49,440 --> 02:51:46,290
wouldn't doubt that that was actually

3128
02:51:51,631 --> 02:51:49,450
the reason and that is why the

3129
02:51:53,761 --> 02:51:51,641
government hasn't come forward stating

3130
02:51:55,650 --> 02:51:53,771
otherwise I always found that

3131
02:51:56,850 --> 02:51:55,660
interesting let's go to the phones hi

3132
02:52:01,650 --> 02:51:56,860
you're live on fade to black who's

3133
02:52:05,640 --> 02:52:01,660
calling oh yeah by the way this is that

3134
02:52:08,131 --> 02:52:05,650
so I film and yeah well there was one

3135
02:52:11,900 --> 02:52:08,141
thing that you got triggered me on and I

3136
02:52:15,600 --> 02:52:11,910
guess I'll bring it up is the

3137
02:52:18,600 --> 02:52:15,610
Neanderthal thing and a homo sapien

3138
02:52:21,690 --> 02:52:18,610
uh-huh and yeah we would cook her coke

3139
02:52:25,710 --> 02:52:21,700
the current with the end so we bread

3140
02:52:28,770 --> 02:52:25,720
with him world I mean we were here be at

3141
02:52:33,480 --> 02:52:28,780
the same time day worker what I'm trying

3142
02:52:37,020 --> 02:52:33,490
to say well okay I don't get this link

3143
02:52:41,501 --> 02:52:37,030
she's taking this is old-school science

3144
02:52:46,810 --> 02:52:41,511
here that she's fighting yes yes and

3145
02:52:52,091 --> 02:52:46,820
and her I don't necessarily well I think

3146
02:52:54,520 --> 02:52:52,101
we kind of are how do I say this our

3147
02:52:57,520 --> 02:52:54,530
theories are a hypothesis sort of

3148
02:53:01,240 --> 02:52:57,530
overlap there but and I know that there

3149
02:53:04,091 --> 02:53:01,250
has been some recent DNA evidence that

3150
02:53:10,690 --> 02:53:04,101
has come forward that shows the

3151
02:53:13,591 --> 02:53:10,700
possibility that we did breed although

3152
02:53:18,640 --> 02:53:13,601
very briefly with cro-magnon and

3153
02:53:20,201 --> 02:53:18,650
Neanderthal but that evidence is is new

3154
02:53:22,600 --> 02:53:20,211
and it isn't a hundred percent

3155
02:53:25,871 --> 02:53:22,610
conclusive yet so there's that part of

3156
02:53:28,690 --> 02:53:25,881
it but the other thing that she brought

3157
02:53:32,381 --> 02:53:28,700
up which to me is mind-blowing and we

3158
02:53:35,230 --> 02:53:32,391
need to understand this we're talking

3159
02:53:37,451 --> 02:53:35,240
about just thirty five thousand years

3160
02:53:38,951 --> 02:53:37,461
ago thirty five thousand years ago

3161
02:53:44,801 --> 02:53:38,961
Neanderthal was walking around

3162
02:53:47,770 --> 02:53:44,811
cro-magnon and that's the last thing the

3163
02:53:51,810 --> 02:53:47,780
last example that we have of them is

3164
02:53:57,520 --> 02:53:51,820
about that yeah about that time and we

3165
02:54:03,520 --> 02:53:57,530
us you and I this latest iteration of

3166
02:54:06,400 --> 02:54:03,530
Homo sapiens appeared around 150 to 175

3167
02:54:08,051 --> 02:54:06,410
thousand years ago you can maybe push it

3168
02:54:12,100 --> 02:54:08,061
back to about two hundred thousand years

3169
02:54:15,280 --> 02:54:12,110
ago but the mitochondria is not discrete

3170
02:54:18,400 --> 02:54:15,290
I wasn't you well okay that that

3171
02:54:22,661 --> 02:54:18,410
surfaced recently here in in in San

3172
02:54:25,180 --> 02:54:22,671
Diego but that that that is only one

3173
02:54:27,730 --> 02:54:25,190
example of that so it's not nonetheless

3174
02:54:32,350 --> 02:54:27,740
I don't care if it's three hundred

3175
02:54:34,961 --> 02:54:32,360
thousand years ago we still appeared we

3176
02:54:38,801 --> 02:54:34,971
need I need to make that clear but we

3177
02:54:43,871 --> 02:54:38,811
just appeared with our foreheads our

3178
02:54:47,951 --> 02:54:43,881
skin our hair our speech our physique

3179
02:54:51,251 --> 02:54:47,961
our noses our genes everything that is

3180
02:54:53,140 --> 02:54:51,261
about us now there was no evolutionary

3181
02:54:54,349 --> 02:54:53,150
process that would take millions of

3182
02:54:58,550 --> 02:54:54,359
years there is

3183
02:55:02,330 --> 02:54:58,560
no evidence right there is no missing

3184
02:55:05,630 --> 02:55:02,340
link and so that is that's the one thing

3185
02:55:09,580 --> 02:55:05,640
that I will continue until that evidence

3186
02:55:13,309 --> 02:55:09,590
appears and it is clearly not out there

3187
02:55:17,269 --> 02:55:13,319
so we just appeared here and I think

3188
02:55:20,689 --> 02:55:17,279
that our DNA was altered you know either

3189
02:55:24,649 --> 02:55:20,699
either we can't say that I can't naysay

3190
02:55:27,439 --> 02:55:24,659
that all right there's there's there is

3191
02:55:30,619 --> 02:55:27,449
no solid explanation for any of it

3192
02:55:34,029 --> 02:55:30,629
unless we just were planted here like

3193
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the octopus right and we just arrived

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but I don't it's a mind-blowing part of

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our history that we us as we are right

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now we just appeared in the big

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evolutionary span of things of four and

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a half billion years on this planet the

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last little tick of time this last

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hundred thousand years or so we just

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appeared and it's just a blip on the

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radar and I haven't heard any

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02:56:09,139 --> 02:56:06,629
satisfactory explanations for that you

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know you go and you look at Neanderthal

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or you look at cro-magnon you take a

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02:56:17,719 --> 02:56:15,629
close look that ain't us and if a

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cro-magnon walked in the room right now

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with you Phil and you look you would

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02:56:29,210 --> 02:56:25,279
scream you would freak I look like oh

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you don't you know just imagine just

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imagine this though this is and go look

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02:56:38,630 --> 02:56:35,100
at any skeletal remains look at any

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02:56:41,000 --> 02:56:38,640
fossils the top of your eyebrow touch it

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right with your finger that is the top

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of his head or her head it goes straight

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02:56:54,920 --> 02:56:48,930
back straight back foreheads that we

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02:56:57,439 --> 02:56:54,930
have now are just us Cree you know you

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02:56:59,989 --> 02:56:57,449
look at Lucy or you look at any other

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02:57:02,359 --> 02:56:59,999
examples and you look at look at that

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and just imagine that walking around

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today know that we're not related I

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02:57:09,921 --> 02:57:07,240
weren't

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not just because it walks upright

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02:57:15,270 --> 02:57:12,790
doesn't mean that we are related it's

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02:57:15,900 --> 02:57:15,280
two different things so that that's my

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02:57:19,110 --> 02:57:15,910
opinion

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and until look every time I speak about

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02:57:23,310 --> 02:57:21,280
this I get the email church you don't

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02:57:24,150 --> 02:57:23,320
know what you're talking about well okay

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02:57:27,810 --> 02:57:24,160
fine

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02:57:31,530 --> 02:57:27,820
show me the missing link

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02:57:34,350 --> 02:57:31,540
show me the evolutionary process show me

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02:57:36,900 --> 02:57:34,360
what came before us and then we're good

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02:57:41,920 --> 02:57:36,910
we're good I'll I'll change my view I

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[Music]

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02:57:49,320 --> 02:57:47,380
it's not well not yet at least

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02:57:51,540 --> 02:57:49,330
till thank you so much my friend and

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02:57:53,820 --> 02:57:51,550
we'll see you tomorrow night all right

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02:57:56,220 --> 02:57:53,830
take care of it Thank You YouTube Phil

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02:57:58,980 --> 02:57:56,230
thank you so much and with that I gotta

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02:58:01,290 --> 02:57:58,990
get out of here I gotta thank Linda

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02:58:02,970 --> 02:58:01,300
Moulton Howe just just a great

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02:58:05,040 --> 02:58:02,980
conversation tonight it's always great

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02:58:07,470 --> 02:58:05,050
when she's on it was it was just too

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02:58:10,381 --> 02:58:07,480
long wasn't it alright betablox

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02:58:12,301 --> 02:58:10,391
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02:58:18,600 --> 02:58:15,160
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02:58:22,280 --> 02:58:18,610
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Victoria Guevara in right here bunch of

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02:58:57,630 --> 02:58:55,090
special guests back to back we'll see

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02:59:02,250 --> 02:58:57,640
you tomorrow night until then

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everybody be safe go back Lee tapping